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Duty exemption ending for shipments from China
April 4, 2025 at
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Last Edited by Nothingworked April 15, 2025 at 10:15 AM
Editing this because it keeps changing: 4/15/2025
Team,
I wanted to share with everyone that April 2nd the White House posted about ending "de minimus" for shipments at or below $800 out of China.
On May 2nd, there will be duties or fees charged for shipments sent through the international postal network and on June 1st, these fees will be increased. I won't put the actual numbers here because they have changed, so please read the white house press releases and find your own interpretation.
Please be aware when placing orders through any Chinese sources.
April 2nd "Fact sheet" on the opioid crisis
https://www.whitehouse.
new link to the updated presidential action: (see section 4)
https://www.whitehouse.
Team,
I wanted to share with everyone that April 2nd the White House posted about ending "de minimus" for shipments at or below $800 out of China.
On May 2nd, there will be duties or fees charged for shipments sent through the international postal network and on June 1st, these fees will be increased. I won't put the actual numbers here because they have changed, so please read the white house press releases and find your own interpretation.
Please be aware when placing orders through any Chinese sources.
April 2nd "Fact sheet" on the opioid crisis
https://www.whitehouse.
new link to the updated presidential action: (see section 4)
https://www.whitehouse.
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This post was before I actually read the article and it was falsely represented here. There will be a 30% tariff in lieu of any duties, with a maximum of $25 starting May 2nd, and maximum of $50 per item starting June 1st. Still bad news, but not necessarily going to kill import sellers for the US.
A $1 item will cost $1.30.
If 30% of an item's cost exceeds $25 starting May 2nd, $25 will be the maximum tariff on that item.
$50 max starting June 1st.
Doesn't sound like we will be winning as consumers.
Amazon will likely shut down that new Temu-like site- Amazon Haul. It's a crappy site anyway. $25 min to get free shipping. Temu can be $10, $15, or $20, based on your account usage. They have some algorithm. Temu has better pricing on many of the same items.
I don't consider this making us better. We don't have US manufacturing sources for these items at a reasonable cost. Hoping this gets repealed soon. Not holding my breath for 3+ years though.
Old post:
It looks like there will also be a 30% of shipment value duty as well.
So buying $100 worth of items will become $100 + $25 + $30.
Then it will be $100 + $50 + $30 in June.
New details:
As of today, 4/15/2025, the following changes have been made:
Sec. 4. De Minimis Tariff Increase. To ensure that the imposition of tariffs pursuant to section 3 of this order is not circumvented and that the purpose of Executive Order 14257, as modified by the Executive Order dated April 8, 2025, and this order are not undermined, I also deem it necessary and appropriate to:
(a) increase the ad valorem rate of duty set forth in section 2(c)(i) of Executive Order 14256 of April 2, 2025 (Further Amendment to Duties Addressing the Synthetic Opioid Supply Chain in the People's Republic of China as Applied to Low-Value Imports), as modified by the Executive Order dated April 8, 2025, from 90 percent to 120 percent;
(b) increase the per postal item containing goods duty in section 2(c)(ii) of Executive Order 14256, as modified by the Executive Order dated April 8, 2025, that is in effect on or after 12:01 a.m. eastern daylight time on May 2, 2025, and before 12:01 a.m. eastern daylight time on June 1, 2025, from 75 dollars to 100 dollars; and
(c) increase the per postal item containing goods duty in section 2(c)(ii) of Executive Order 14256, as modified by the Executive Order dated April 8, 2025, that is in effect on or after 12:01 a.m. eastern daylight time on June 1, 2025, from 150 dollars to 200 dollars.
So incoming packages below $800 will either be charged the % duties or the $ fee.
Old post
There are a lot of small businesses that will be crushed by this because there aren't USA sources yet, like you said.
I didn't realize there was an opioid crisis coming from China, though. Like when has that been an issue specifically.
I would have expected something like this on shipments from South America or Mexico.
So buying $100 worth of items will become $100 + $25 + $30.
Then it will be $100 + $50 + $30 in June.
There are a lot of small businesses that will be crushed by this because there aren't USA sources yet, like you said.
I didn't realize there was an opioid crisis coming from China, though. Like when has that been an issue specifically.
I would have expected something like this on shipments from South America or Mexico.
I wanted to share with everyone that April 2nd the White House posted about ending "de minimus" for shipments at or below $800 out of China.
In the past these shipments had not been charged duties or tariffs. Effective on May 2nd at 12:01am EDT (first minute of the day) these shipments will be charged $25 each. I believe this is "per shipment" but the actual text reads "per item" which can be confusing.
On June 1st, that $25 will become $50 "per item".
Please be aware when placing orders through any Chinese sources that these duties will start to have an impact.
https://www.whitehouse.
That means that if 30% of the value is higher than $25 ($50 as of June 1st) you will get the $25 or $50 charge on that item. If 30% of the items value is less than the $25 or $50, you get charged 30%.
So a $1 will be $1.30
A $500 item would be $25 until June 1st then $50.
So buying $100 worth of items will become $100 + $25 + $30.
Then it will be $100 + $50 + $30 in June.
There are a lot of small businesses that will be crushed by this because there aren't USA sources yet, like you said.
I didn't realize there was an opioid crisis coming from China, though. Like when has that been an issue specifically.
I would have expected something like this on shipments from South America or Mexico.
I blame myself for not reading it first before posting here (and to my chagrin, spreading FUD elsewhere!).
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(a) increase the ad valorem rate of duty set forth in section 2(c)(i) of Executive Order 14256 of April 2, 2025 (Further Amendment to Duties Addressing the Synthetic Opioid Supply Chain in the People's Republic of China as Applied to Low-Value Imports), as modified by the Executive Order dated April 8, 2025, from 90 percent to 120 percent;
(b) increase the per postal item containing goods duty in section 2(c)(ii) of Executive Order 14256, as modified by the Executive Order dated April 8, 2025, that is in effect on or after 12:01 a.m. eastern daylight time on May 2, 2025, and before 12:01 a.m. eastern daylight time on June 1, 2025, from 75 dollars to 100 dollars; and
(c) increase the per postal item containing goods duty in section 2(c)(ii) of Executive Order 14256, as modified by the Executive Order dated April 8, 2025, that is in effect on or after 12:01 a.m. eastern daylight time on June 1, 2025, from 150 dollars to 200 dollars.
https://www.whitehouse.
May 2 = $100
June 1 = $200
I blame myself for not reading it first before posting here (and to my chagrin, spreading FUD elsewhere!).
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That means that if 30% of the value is higher than $25 ($50 as of June 1st) you will get the $25 or $50 charge on that item. If 30% of the items value is less than the $25 or $50, you get charged 30%.
So a $1 will be $1.30
A $500 item would be $25 until June 1st then $50.
I just found this very long post on the Aliexpress subreddit that I will give a read since I cannot seem to find an answer to the "less, greater, or either" point.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Aliexpre...tion
After reading the sub-reddit, this sounds exactly like the monopoly income tax space (pay $200 or 10% of worth). You either select to pay the flat fee or the %, which in most cases the % is going to be the better decision for consumers, possibly.
It also isn't clear when the receiver will be billed. Is that at the time of shipping or before delivery. I wish the EO's were written better and/or this policy was rolled out like previous administrations where we had time to digest and calmly decipher it with legal assistance.
I just found this very long post on the Aliexpress subreddit that I will give a read since I cannot seem to find an answer to the "less, greater, or either" point.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Aliexpre...tion
After reading the sub-reddit, this sounds exactly like the monopoly income tax space (pay $200 or 10% of worth). You either select to pay the flat fee or the %, which in most cases the % is going to be the better decision for consumers, possibly.
It also isn't clear when the receiver will be billed. Is that at the time of shipping or before delivery. I wish the EO's were written better and/or this policy was rolled out like previous administrations where we had time to digest and calmly decipher it with legal assistance.
We know that "OR" means they can't charge both. While it doesn't specifically say "the greater" or "the lesser ", think it through.
Things that the percentage would put it at a higher tariff kicks in the flat rate limit cap. We won't be charging that much as the Pres did not claim that- just percentages, and NO ONE would be ordering any cheap items if the flat rate was the charge for a cheap item.
To answer the other part, the sellers will either be required to disclose that any US tariff will
need to be determined and paid after shipping or simply raise prices and cover it out of the price. I am betting on the latter as it is easy to formulate, and I also bet they don't want to shock buyers into chargebacks.
I have never had a foreign seller leave me holding the bag without disclosing in advance that there would be a certain added tariff. I will hold off to see how things go once it kicks in for any foreign seller sites I visit. There will be reports on what happens.
If I still decide to be impatient once it rolls out, I suggest you use either a one-time, or low-limit Virtual CC or a "low balance after the initial charge" MC/VS Gift Card for the purchase.
Then you cannot be charged any surprise additional amount. Until I know for certain, I am planning to do that if a foreign seller won't specify in their FAQs or on the main site page.