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Apple 2024 iMac All-in-One Desktop Computer with M4 chip with 8-core CPU and 8-core GPU: Built for Apple Intelligence, 24-inch Retina Display, 16GB Memory, 256GB SSD $1095.95

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6h ago
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ratbastard
6h ago
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Honest question, not trying to start an argument: is there not a $650 monitor better than this? The M4 Mac Mini can be had for $450, so couldn't one just get a better monitor and pair them?
6h ago
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DrRad
6h ago
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Quote from ratbastard :
Honest question, not trying to start an argument: is there not a $650 monitor better than this? The M4 Mac Mini can be had for $450, so couldn't one just get a better monitor and pair them?

Yes. It's a waste of money buying the attached monitor. Especially since Apple's idea of recycling is shipping them back to China and washing their hands.
6h ago
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Dhry
6h ago
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Quote from ratbastard :
Honest question, not trying to start an argument: is there not a $650 monitor better than this? The M4 Mac Mini can be had for $450, so couldn't one just get a better monitor and pair them?
Additionally the Mac Mini has the 10 core CPU/GPU M4. No idea who would buy this over the mini and a separate monitor.
5h ago
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KanwalpreetK
5h ago
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I think the appeal of this is that it's one unit. Portability maybe? Not that people will be ever moving it.
5h ago
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thenewdesign
5h ago
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Quote from Dhry :
Additionally the Mac Mini has the 10 core CPU/GPU M4. No idea who would buy this over the mini and a separate monitor.
There's a certain luxury to your whole computer being a single lightweight thing with a single cable and excellent speakers built into it, brightness control so easy senior citizens can use it Big Grin, etc..

Apple keyboards and peripherals are also kind of pricey. I got one of these for my elderly mom who has notoriously struggled with operating her computer and it's been a game changer.
5h ago
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hereforthecomments
5h ago
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This in 27 would be great, or perfect in 29.
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tax-exempt-buyer
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The Mac mini, M4 at the price of $450 and the iPad mini at 399 and 549 for the cellular version are the best deals and Apple's lineup hands-down and I will say that going from the 10 core CPUGPU to an eight core CPUGPU the benchmarks are nearly identical, especially when if anything is under sustained below the thermal throttling as the primarily limiting factor as both systems have identical cooling so after doing anything for more than a sustained five seconds they perform plus or -5% of each other one big benefit with the integrated all in one iMac to consider is it comes with about $150 worth of Apple magic mouse and keyboard as the iPad mini is bring your own not say that you can't get great deals on fantastic keyboard mouse combinations that a lot of times definitely exceed Apple's lineup, but that is the price point Apple dictates for their OEM hardware
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4h ago
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telthus
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Quote from ratbastard :
Honest question, not trying to start an argument: is there not a $650 monitor better than this? The M4 Mac Mini can be had for $450, so couldn't one just get a better monitor and pair them?

There actually aren't many 5k monitor options out there, and definitely not under 1k new.

Realistically 90% of the people that would buy this would be just fine with a 4k monitor and M4 mini for hundreds less. But I think the real appeal to those people is the slim & simple apple aesthetic, and maybe the included Magic mouse/keyboard.
Last edited by telthus May 9, 2025 at 09:40 PM.
4h ago
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threeclaws
4h ago
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Quote from ratbastard :
Honest question, not trying to start an argument: is there not a $650 monitor better than this? The M4 Mac Mini can be had for $450, so couldn't one just get a better monitor and pair them?
Probably not but that's because of 5k, that being said you could find something nice enough in a 4k.

However, it wouldn't be in a sleek package that has 1 cord coming off of it. Aesthetic counts for something and a lot of offices want this look at their front desk, or homeowners who want the same look for what is a web machine.
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LavenderPickle7682
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Let me give a quick FAQ (more like a FAWK):

Q: Is this just glorified ewaste since none of the components can be upgraded or replaced?
A: Correct.

Q: Wait, you mean that once one part of this machine gives up the ghost post-warranty period, the entire thing is a heap of trash?
A: Like I said, correct. The only things you can reuse are the keyboard and mouse.

Q: Well, can you at least reuse the monitor?
A: Nope!

Q: But I read somewhere you can do that!
A: Incorrect. But you can read a lot of things on the internet that aren't true. Here's the real deal....reusing was only on a handful of specific versions of the older Intel iMac, running very specific software, specific macOS versions. You could only use it as a second display on another "compatible" Mac running specific softare + macOS. And it was very glitchy. Not at all "plug and play".

Q: Well, why wouldn't they let you reuse the screen since it's still good and such high quality?
A: Because the same reasons no laptop manufacturer lets you reuse the screen on a laptop as a second display -- it'd cut into sales. They want you to keep buying a new model. Reduce + Reuse + Recycle doesn't earn them double-digit quarter-over-quarter growth.

Q: Isn't the 10-core Mac Mini at $600 (or less) a much better bargain? Especially the recent sale with it being at $450? Meaning you have ~$650 to buy a monitor + speakers + mic + webcam + keyboard + mouse of your choice? Instead of a intentionally-designed mouse that needs to be put onto its back like a turtle just so it can charge?
A: That design is considered "courageous", even today. That word, among many others, are used to separate you from your hard-earned money. But yes, the above supposition is correct. And you can reuse those components too, so you have an incentive to buy quality accessories. And if one piece fails, you can swap it out with little to no complications.

Q: But speaking of design, be nice. It's so thin!
A: That's not a question. Also, it's sitting on a desk -- not in your pants pocket like a phone. Size doesn't matter.

Q: So who'd actually buy this machine?
A: -shrug- Aging grandparents who may never need to worry about upgrading their computer?
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Dhry
1h ago
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Quote from thenewdesign :
There's a certain luxury to your whole computer being a single lightweight thing with a single cable and excellent speakers built into it, brightness control so easy senior citizens can use it , etc..Apple keyboards and peripherals are also kind of pricey. I got one of these for my elderly mom who has notoriously struggled with operating her computer and it's been a game changer.
I have a mini with a generic 4K monitor - the monitor has speakers but I have decent external ones. I can control the volume and brightness from the keyboard. All up, including kb and mouse, about $800. I get the aesthetic thing with much of the Apple crowd but if I personally had to rank reasons to get a computer, aesthetics would come in pretty close to last.

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