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Details on how to understand the Mortgage basics and information that I understand for your learning can be accessed on this post (Click this hyperlink to go to the post); If you are new to this process and have questions this is a Must Read before asking question on the forum!


Reviving my over a decade old thread from SD and FW as the rates have gotten competitive. This thread is a SD community thread to compare and post best rates received along with their lender experience for a quick compare and estimation from a starting point.


Please note that rates will vary on quite a few factors and just because one person has a rate will not guarantee you will receive the same rate but simply use this as a guide and negotiation tactic.

All below rates are based on assumptions of certain LTV, DTI, & Excellent Credit Scores:

30 Year Fixed best rates (Assuming Good Credit & 20% down, low LTV, low DTI, etc etc):
All listed lenders are here because I shopped them and have encountered competitive pricing and not because I get any sort of a kickback....use this as a gauge for the latest but note that things can change week to week, day to day and even hour to hour:

07/14/2021 2.875% Better.com- Will consider Lender Match to beat Competitors and combine with Amex cashback (Click here for additional Forum thread details). Amex's "Digital Assist" Team @ 800-297-7500

07/14/2021 2.875% LoanDepot.com - Is competitive but works better if you have another offer for them. My LO Luke Dean
[email protected] 949-652-4521

07/14/2021 BSMFunding (David Pressel) - Call to get the latest rates (no published online). Very competitive rates; get everything in writing via email!
https://bsmfunding.mymortgage-onl...essel.html
David Pressel (NMLS: 562175)- Branch Manager - Phone: 908-208-2036
[email protected]
07/14/2021 2.5% LoanCabin [loancabin.com] - Most Competitive but refinance times have grow to almost 6 months for many people so proceed with caution as recent reviews indicate normal 1 month closing. Generally do not charge for big Lender Fees (A+B on LE) as they are under $100 in most cases; esp if appraisal is waived for your scenario.

07/14/2021 3% LenderFi - Competitive but might be slow and not work on beating other lender rates.
30 Year Fixed Jumbo Best Rates (Assuming Good Credit & 20% down):
TBD
15 year Fixed:
07/14/2021 2.0 % Better.com; matches Bankrate rates for themselves.
07/04/2020 2.5% NIH Credit Union with Lender Credit
Title Company Comparisions:
RadianTitleDirect.com - OP has used them for almost a decade with getting best rates (closed after Covid, Lender must submit order as consumer side is closed).
ALTTitle.com
https://www.valerotitle.com/ - Texas only.
Alphabetical list of other lenders (some could be non-proven without direct member experiences posted here):
  1. AimLoan - Will provide LE without hard pull if credit is frozen https://www.aimloan.com/
  2. Amerisave - will give you scores from all 3 bureaus with just a soft pull https://www.amerisave.com/
  3. Better.com https://better.com/
  4. BoxHomeLoans https://www.boxhomeloans.com/
  5. Close Your Own Loan https://www.closeyourownloan.com/...sults.aspx
  6. Colonial Mort http://www.colonialmort.com/
  7. HighTechLending http://www.hightechlending.co/Default.aspx
  8. Interactive Mortgage https://interactivemortgage.com/ Eric from IM is super rude so good luck dealing with this guy!
  9. LenderFi https://www.lenderfi.com [lenderfi.com]if the link wont work try this backend link: https://app.lenderfi.com/app/sign...r/lenderfi
  10. Loan Cabin https://www.loancabin.com/
  11. Loan Depot https://www.loandepot.com/
  12. LoanLock https://www.loanlock.com/
  13. NavyFederal CU https://www.navyfederal.org/
  14. NIH credit union (Delware, District of Columbia, Maryland, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Virginia, West Virginia) https://www.nihfcu.org/
  15. Northpointe Bank https://www.northpointe.com/
  16. Owning.com (Operates only in CA) https://owning.com/
  17. Pentagon Federal CU https://www.penfed.org/
  18. Provident Funding - will give LE without locking rate https://www.provident.com/
  19. RatePlus (California) https://www.rateplus.com/
  20. Travis Credit Union (12 North Cal Counties only) https://www.traviscu.org/ Eligibility traviscu.org
  21. United wholesale mortgages https://www.uwm.com/
  22. Watermark Home Loans https://www.watermarkhomeloans.com/
  23. West Coast Mortgage Associates (The loan broker is in So.Cal. Debbie Morgan) https://wcmtg.com/


Shahhere

Old Thread - https://slickdeals.net/e/1223863-03-06-2009-best-mortgage-rates-from-big-reputable-lenders-30year-5-15year-5-arm-s-etc

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Quote from MeAPhool :
I think a lot of people get confused with regards to "no closing cost". Specifically I think that is with regards to A+B+C (as referenced in this post by volcomssj48 - https://slickdeals.net/forums/showpost.php?p=138543920&postcount=138)

As per volcomssj48, this is a good place to go for a basic understanding of the LE (Loan Estimate) that should be provided to you by each lender once you give all of your information: https://www.consumerfinance.gov/o...-estimate/

I'm in NJ so I can't really shop Title Insurance much as it's the cost is regulated by the state, however in other states, you can really cut down some of the costs in section "C".
Good site for daily mortgage news. Subscribe to their daily mortgage rate news to learn about their predictions. Also take a look at the rest of their site.
http://www.mortgagenewsdaily.com/...age_rates/



Potential Lenders - Mentioned in Thread
*Please add to this list and add locality if applicable*

  1. Loan Cabin https://www.loancabin.com/
  2. Better.com https://better.com/
  3. Interactive Mortgage https://interactivemortgage.com/
  4. LenderFi https://www.lenderfi.com/
  5. owning.com (Operates only in CA) https://owning.com/
  6. NIH credit union (Delware, District of Columbia, Maryland, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Virginia, West Virginia) https://www.nihfcu.org/
  7. Loan Depot https://www.loandepot.com/
  8. Travis Credit Union (12 North Cal Counties only) https://www.traviscu.org/ Eligibility [traviscu.org]
  9. Pentagon Federal CU https://www.penfed.org/
  10. Interactive Mortgage https://interactivemortgage.com/
  11. NavyFederal CU https://www.navyfederal.org/
  12. United wholesale mortgages https://www.uwm.com/
  13. BoxHomeLoans https://www.boxhomeloans.com/
  14. LoanLock https://www.loanlock.com/
  15. West Coast Mortgage Associates (The loan broker is in So.Cal. Debbie Morgan) https://wcmtg.com/
  16. RatePlus (California) https://www.rateplus.com/
  17. Northpointe Bank https://www.northpointe.com/
  18. HighTechLending https://hightechlending.mortgagewebcenter.com/
  19. Close Your Own Loan https://www.closeyourownloan.com/...sults.aspx
  20. AimLoan - will give LE without hard pull if credit is frozen https://www.aimloan.com/
  21. Amerisave - will give you scores from all 3 bureaus with just a soft pull
    https://www.amerisave.com/
  22. Provident - will give LE without locking rate https://www.provident.com/ Best Credit Back with 60% LTV or better.
  23. Watermark Home Loans https://www.watermarkhomeloans.com/ Skip these guys. They are being rude to Slickdealers. In one occasion they have explicitly said they don't want to do business with people from Slickdeals. They also have an approach where they give you the best rate initially and just raise it more each time you ask.
  24. Colonial Mort http://www.colonialmort.com/
  25. Annie Mac https://www.annie-mac.com/ Licensed in these states https://www.annie-mac.com/page/licensed-states/
  26. Rate Rabbit https://www.raterabbit.com/ Licensed in MA and others [raterabbit.com]

Discount lenders who DO NOT accept fully documented in tax returns self-employment income:
Owning.com
BoxHomeLoans
Lower.com

Discount Lenders that DO accept fully documented in tax returns self-employment income:
Sebonic
Caliber
Sage

Title Company Shopping
AltTitle.com
mytitlegenius.com (formerly entitle direct)
TO AVOID - Settlement LTD (local Pittsburgh run away from them - high cost, very bad service, lot of delays)


Feel Free to Add Sections for Each Lender - MeAPhool

Loan Cabin - DetailsWARNING. DO NOT GO WITH LOAN CABIN. TRUST ME.
I would have lost the home if i was trying to buy a house.
I just had a normal refi and it took then 127 days to close. out of the 27 emails i sent, they responded to 3. I even had to call (complain) their main office 2 times to get a response to any emails. they screwed the closing paperwork as well.


Loan Cabin does not charge lender fees. Actually all of this is in their FAQ but of course nobody reads anything and wants everything spoon fed.

This means A+B (reference the link above in the wiki regarding Loan Estimate) in the Loan Estimate should be 0 (as long as your appraisal is waived).

You will be responsible for Title Cost (of course you can shop that to your heart's delight)
You will be responsible for Recording Fee in your county
You will be responsible for Escrows (if you so choose OR if you are close to Homeowner's OR Property Tax payment - though you can negotiate and show evidence to get it waived. Most lender's will waive it if you are choosing not to escrow and you can show proof that you paid the upcoming Property Tax or Homeowner's Insurance)

You will be responsible for Prepaid Interest (this isn't a cost. If you didn't refinance, you'd be paying the interest at your current mortgage rate which I assume would be higher).

Lender Credit - If this covers A+B+C+E then you have a no-cost refinance. If you have a surplus aside from A+B+C+E, then technically you made money on your refinance.


If you apply and do no hear back for 3 days, then on the 3rd business day, reach out to [email protected]. They will usually help get a response on your application within a day.



If the information in this WIKI does not cover your questions, then please ask. We will answer and update WIKI accordingly.

Thanks - MeAPhool

Quote from arouncoumar :
For those needing clarity on LC closing costs, I was on the same boat. See what they charge here https://www.dropbox.com/s/r30ecea...t.png?dl=0
Quote from PeterLegend :
Here is a photo of my loan estimate from Loan Cabin, my lender credits should be closer to 3K based on my initial conversations with Bob so i'm following up with him on that.

I do see title insurance in my estimate. I reached out to Owning but I didn't quality for the no cost refinance option since my LTV was 73%, it has to be 50% or lower when I spoke to them.

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10-07-2020 at 09:35 AM.
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15 year fixed 2.375%

Cash to close: 395.43 (J) + 186,190.78 (K) - 185,800.00 (loan amount) = $786.21

Can someone explain loan calculations? Closing costs are clear. Thanks.
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10-07-2020 at 09:40 AM.
10-07-2020 at 09:40 AM.
Quote from senthilcoumar :
Thanks for this list. Also thanks to tedzo for suggesting congressional bank. I just applied to all of these. In the meantime I got a quote (through costco) which is attached. Any comments on how good/bad this is?
Attachment 9440750
When I went through my quotes, Costco couldn't come close to Loan Cabin or others (I'm also executive).

In your case, your rates aren't bad so maybe they have improved.

$255K @ 2.625% - total interest = $113,715.19
$256K @ 2.500% - total interest = $108,143.42 ($5,571.77 less) but $278.75 different in closing cost and an additional $1,000 in principal to pay back, so without taking into account interest, inflation, you are net positive ($4293.02). If you prepay principal, you will be net positive even more. If you itemize, you can also can deduct discount (aka points) on your taxes.

If you only have these 2 options, I'd take $256K @ 2.5%.

As shahhere suggested, you can always find out what you get at 2.75%
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10-07-2020 at 01:56 PM.
10-07-2020 at 01:56 PM.
Quote from Joanneitaly1958 :
I started end of July. It was a 60 day close but the loan was easy. The longest part was getting my loan to an underwriter. Once my loan was approved we closed right away. Loan Cabin does not charge for extension fees so we were okay with it.
My account finally says it was submitted to underwriting 9/29. Do you know how long it took in underwriting? .. July 27 was my official lock date. This is killin me!
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10-07-2020 at 02:57 PM.
10-07-2020 at 02:57 PM.
Quote from mamakat :
My account finally says it was submitted to underwriting 9/29. Do you know how long it took in underwriting? .. July 27 was my official lock date. This is killin me!
There have been faster closing than mine but worst case scenario could be my timeline. Locked around July 3rd but still no official close date. Going on to ~95 days since lock. FYI I submitted everything within a day or two when they asked me to. Have beeen out of underwriting since September 20th
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10-07-2020 at 03:17 PM.
Quote from SplendidCircle329 :
There have been faster closing than mine but worst case scenario could be my timeline. Locked around July 3rd but still no official close date. Going on to ~95 days since lock. FYI I submitted everything within a day or two when they asked me to. Have beeen out of underwriting since September 20th
Did LC mention what the hold up might be? I am waiting to be put into underwriting myself. Patiently waiting as best I can.
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10-07-2020 at 03:51 PM.
10-07-2020 at 03:51 PM.
How accurate are the rate quotes on LoanCabin? Or are they pretty much teaser rates to get you to apply? Does there pre-approval require a hard pull on your credit? How soon do they give out a LE?
I know Better does soft pulls and able to get LE's quick, but their rates shown for me are pretty high...
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Quote from coppeebobah :
How accurate are the rate quotes on LoanCabin? Or are they pretty much teaser rates to get you to apply? Does there pre-approval require a hard pull on your credit? How soon do they give out a LE?
I know Better does soft pulls and able to get LE's quick, but their rates shown for me are pretty high...
I found the website quotes to be accurate, assuming you enter in your correct information. You have to select a 60-day lock though, because they won't do a shorter lock.

After you apply, an LO will reach out, and then you can lock your rate. The hard pull occurs when you lock. You should be able to get the LE several days after locking.

The question is how long it will take for an LO to reach out after you apply. Recently it sounds like people have been hearing back the next day, which is great. In the past it could take several weeks.
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Shahhere
Sending you a PM
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Big ups to this thread and everybody who has provided help/insight, just locked 2.375 30 fixed no closing at IM. Plan to keep paying the same as my old 3.2 30 and will save a ton of interest.
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How are you guys getting Better to lock and proceed to processing/underwriting without paying the upfront appraisal deposit? I've completed all the tasks except deposit. I've asked to lock without a deposit, and they refused. I know you can pay and get a refund if you back out, but that's $550 to tie up.
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Quote from sdpettytyrant :
How are you guys getting Better to lock and proceed to processing/underwriting without paying the upfront appraisal deposit? I've completed all the tasks except deposit. I've asked to lock without a deposit, and they refused. I know you can pay and get a refund if you back out, but that's $550 to tie up.

With some lenders you have to pay to play.


When I did this I spoke to my loan officer during the price match and he ran the numbers for me on the phone call and confirmed I have an appraisal waiver.


Shahhere
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Anyone find a lender doing cash out refis for investment property?
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I just got a Title contact for GA & NJ so I pmed you the details and keep me posted on the details if their prices are competitive or not.


Shahhere
Could you also PM me a radian contact for NJ? Thanks.
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Locking a refinance rate with a lender doesn't mean I have to close with them? Correct? I can lock with several lenders but pick the best lender for closing?
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Quote from shahhere :
With some lenders you have to pay to play.


When I did this I spoke to my loan officer during the price match and he ran the numbers for me on the phone call and confirmed I have an appraisal waiver.


Shahhere
I have an appraisal waiver, but it doesn't matter to Better. Better still wants the appraisal deposit.

How are some of you avoiding the appraisal deposit with Better (now that the Amex offer is gone)?
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