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Amazon Basics 24-Pack AAA Performance 800 mAh Rechargeable Batteries $18.76 +FS w/Prime

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Jul 30, 2022
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ChinesiumWuhanJones
Jul 30, 2022
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Any AA?
Jul 30, 2022
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ashish8
Jul 30, 2022
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These are now made in China. Probably junk.
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Jul 31, 2022
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steppedinit
Jul 31, 2022
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Quote from ashish8 :
These are now made in China. Probably junk.
Like your iPhone and TV?
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Jul 31, 2022
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ashish8
Jul 31, 2022
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Quote from steppedinit :
Like your iPhone and TV?
Enjoy sounding like a condescending idiot?

A little bit of research would've told you that these were good when they were made in Japan and are now made in China. The degradations also evident in the recent reviews. A little extra research would tell you that most of the Japanese rechargeable batteries significantly outperform their Chinese counterparts.
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Jul 31, 2022
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relaymy
Jul 31, 2022
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Quote from ashish8 :
Enjoy sounding like a condescending idiot?

A little bit of research would've told you that these were good when they were made in Japan and are now made in China. The degradations also evident in the recent reviews. A little extra research would tell you that most of the Japanese rechargeable batteries significantly outperform their Chinese counterparts.
Like your iPhone and TV? LMAO
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Hartage
Jul 31, 2022
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Quote from ashish8 :
Enjoy sounding like a condescending idiot?

A little bit of research would've told you that these were good when they were made in Japan and are now made in China. The degradations also evident in the recent reviews. A little extra research would tell you that most of the Japanese rechargeable batteries significantly outperform their Chinese counterparts.
Eh ? he didn't sound condescending, it is a valid point. If you think made in china is junk, then you MUST think your iphone and tv are also junk, for the SAME reason, made in china.
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illbirz
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I usually say Enloop or bust!! But this seems a bit tasty and might be worth a nibble. Damn kids toys!

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ljl122
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Quote from ashish8 :
These are now made in China. Probably junk.
I only buy from China. That's how you know it's quality at a good price.
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rrmoore
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Quote from ljl122 :
I only buy from China. That's how you know it's quality at a good price.
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The years of comments in the Amazon battery threads suggest differently.
The batteries out of Japan have shown to be of much better quality.

No comparison generally between products 'Made in China' vs. 'Made in Japan'.
One of the reasons you don't see many 'Made in China' cars on the road outside of China, but there are a few cars (designed or) 'Made in Japan'.
Last edited by rrmoore September 15, 2022 at 11:00 AM.
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BackFromTheDead21
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Quote from rrmoore :
?


The years of comments in the Amazon battery threads suggest differently.
The batteries out of Japan have shown to be of much better quality.
It was clearly a joke.
Sep 15, 2022
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TheBigCPabster
Sep 15, 2022
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They're junk. I threw away all my Amazon basics rechargeables. They don't hold charges long and never reach rated capacities. You get what you don't pay for. I replaced with all Eneloop cells. A lot more $ but they all match or exceed ratings and more importantly they actually have charge when you haven't used for a bit whereas the Basics junk is a door stop very quickly.
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FatFaluz
Sep 23, 2022
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Quote from ashish8 :
These are now made in China. Probably junk.
I bought the 12-pack in May 2021 (thread) and the cells were made in Malaysia. Most of the "top reviews" on Amazon are years old and many negative reviews 2020 and earlier were when Amazon was sourcing bad cells from China. So most of the reviews and anecdotes out there are useless unless they specify the origin of the cells.

I don't use them heavy or long enough to make conclusive statement for the Malaysia cells. I use them in low-demand applications (Panasonic landline cordless phones) and occasional GPRS radio walkie-talkie which they perform well for over a year (phone lasting 5+ days before needing to return to base for recharging). And no word whether the current batch is still from Malaysia.
Last edited by FatFaluz September 23, 2022 at 01:28 PM.
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ytvutb
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Quote from rrmoore :
?


The years of comments in the Amazon battery threads suggest differently.
The batteries out of Japan have shown to be of much better quality.

No comparison generally between products 'Made in China' vs. 'Made in Japan'.
One of the reasons you don't see many 'Made in China' cars on the road outside of China, but there are a few cars (designed or) 'Made in Japan'.
Japan actually means nothing. It's the tolerances, materials and features the vendor demands out of the Chinese products that determines the quality. Chinese production is fine it's the cutting of corners the us vendors tell them to do that is the problem.

Just think about it. Batteries aren't that complicated. The Chinese could do it, easily, if directed to do so.
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rrmoore
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Quote from ytvutb :
Japan actually means nothing. It's the tolerances, materials and features the vendor demands out of the Chinese products that determines the quality. Chinese production is fine it's the cutting of corners the U.S. vendors tell them to do that is the problem.

Just think about it. Batteries aren't that complicated. The Chinese could do it, easily, if directed to do so.
I disagree. U.S. (or other) brands don't tell Chinese manufacturers to cut corners on factory production quality or the quality of materials. However, I do blame brands for not doing quality testing after production, and durability testing after production. The attitude now is, if it makes it through the return-period and warranty-period, that's all that matters for most (but not all) brands.

Japanese manufacturers have a different attitude. They'll reject production requests if they can't be met with reasonable quality. Many U.S., German, etc., manufacturers are the same. For Chinese manufacturers, without extremely strict monitoring during and post-production, quality is the least possible level to pass.

"Made in Japan", "Made in the USA", "Made in Germany", has a long history of standing for something more. "Made in China"? Not so much, although of course there are many exceptions for brands that strictly control and monitor most of the process.

"Made in China" often means one-time production runs and limited-time relationships between brand and manufacturer. There are exceptions of course.

There are reasons why buyers often continue to pay 2X-3X more for batteries that are "Made in Japan". It's to do with reliability, and longer-term investment value. One can pay less for the short-term, or pay more for longer-term satisfaction.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaizen

Reminds me of a recent conversation between a sales clerk and a customers in a quality store. The customer said to the clerk, "I'd prefer something not made in China". (They had recently immigrated from China.) She spoke with wisdom and determination. Don't get me wrong, most of my purchases are Made in China. However, when customers have a choice for goods that aren't much more, most would leap to the alternatives.
Last edited by rrmoore November 24, 2022 at 09:28 AM.

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Quote from rrmoore :
I disagree. U.S. (or other) brands don't tell Chinese manufacturers to cut corners on factory production quality or the quality of materials. However, I do blame brands for not doing quality testing after production, and durability testing after production. The attitude now is, if it makes it through the return-period and warranty-period, that's all that matters for most (but not all) brands.

Japanese manufacturers have a different attitude. They'll reject production requests if they can't be met with reasonable quality. Many U.S., German, etc., manufacturers are the same. For Chinese manufacturers, without extremely strict monitoring during and post-production, quality is the least possible level to pass.

"Made in Japan", "Made in the USA", "Made in Germany", has a long history of standing for something more. "Made in China"? Not so much, although of course there are many exceptions for brands that strictly control and monitor most of the process.

"Made in China" often means one-time production runs and limited-time relationships between brand and manufacturer. There are exceptions of course.

There are reasons why buyers often continue to pay 2X-3X more for batteries that are "Made in Japan". It's to do with reliability, and longer-term investment value. One can pay less for the short-term, or pay more for longer-term satisfaction.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaizen

Reminds me of a recent conversation between a sales clerk and a customers in a quality store. The customer said to the clerk, "I'd prefer something not made in China". (They had recently immigrated from China.) She spoke with wisdom and determination. Don't get me wrong, most of my purchases are Made in China. However, when customers have a choice for goods that aren't much more, most would leap to the alternatives.
I'm telling u made in means nothing. Think what u want. China is fine it's the tolerances that the vendor sets. That's everything. I work in inflatable boats man trust me… the Chinese can make the best, or the worst, or anything in between. And if need be, yeah a material can be imported from Germany at an added expense. But u see the made in for our daily products means nothing.

In this case chinese would have absolutely no problem making a Japanese battery, and this often happens, and that battery would be the same quality and much cheaper. So following this made in bs is not the way to go, 100%
Last edited by ytvutb November 24, 2022 at 09:34 AM.

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