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About this product:
- Full-auto one-click leveling, flawless first layer
- PEI Flexible magnetic printing platform, quickly remove the model
- CoreXY, rapid yet stable, up to 600mm/s print speed
- 4.3-inch touchscreen simplifies printing operations
- Quick-release nozzle, snap-on design, 3-second replacement
- Supports high-speed filament
- 220 × 220 × 220 mm is sufficient space for most prints
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In the ~300 hours I've printed with the machine I've had very few print failures and most were on me. I had one failure that was due to the print head fan cover getting pulled off. It's just held on with magnets and clips. No idea how it got caught but it was pulled off during a print and resulted in a print failure. The other failure I've had is when I push my luck getting parts to stick to the build plate. My preference is to avoid using brims or rafts and even supports when possible. When you can pull it off you get less waste. However, sometimes you push your luck and the result is a print that fails to adhere to the build surface. My feeling is the print failures I've had would likely have failed on other good printers as they were more about pushing the limits of the state of the FDM art rather than the printer having a feeding or other issue.
To reduce my risk of build plate failures I have a spare build plate with a masking tape surface. The tape surface holds the print better vs the standard PEI plate. However, the tape surface doesn't look as nice on the printed part. For PLA I always recommend using a tape surface if you have adhesion issues. Also, if you use the taped build plate, run the auto level at the start of the print (it doesn't add much time).
Speed wise this is a fast printer. It's one of the fastest consumer printers on the market. However, I feel like most of the "500 mm/s" printers are producing reasonably similar speeds. One might take 7 hr while this FF takes 6hr. Yeah, that's a difference but if you put that same print job on an Ender 3 Pro it would take 20. If you put it on the Ender 3 V3 SE it would take 12.
The fans are louder on this one. Not crazy loud but not quiet. The noise levels were helped by buying/printing the housing kit FF offers. I so far only print PLA since the printer is in my office (no ABS or other bad fume resins in the office). The enclosure makes the printer better for ABS and other more sensitive filaments. It also reduces print noise and keeps dust off the print bed when off. I got the kit for $30 when it was on sale. It also consumed about 1.5 rolls of filament, so perhaps $20 in material ( I way reduced the infill density on the thick top parts to save filament and print time)
So for about $300 after taxes and free shipping I have an reasonably enclosed printer that does a great job with PLA prints.
Would I buy this over the Elegoo Centauri ($200+shipping) or Centauri Carbon ($300+ shipping)? Hard to say but probably not. Not because I don't think the FF 5M is a great printer. It is great and I'm very happy with mine. However, at my near $300 I'm just the cost of shipping (and several months of waiting ) away from the, on paper, nicer Centauri Carbon. Compared to the Centauri (the open frame model) the on paper differences are very smaller but they are also basically the same price after shipping.
The biggest pros I see to the FF5M are the much faster bed leveling (2 min vs something like 30) but that's only important if, like me, you change out build plates for various jobs. The other thing is the FF5M ships now vs in mid to late July. Oh, the FF5M also can do wired or wireless networking. For shop/print farm use the wired networking likely matters but most home users are likely on wireless. I guess you can also install Kliper on the printer vs using the locked down FF version already installed. I've never bothered with either.
The Elegoo has a moderately larger build volume. This printer has a 220x220x220 tall build volume which copies the Ender family. It can use low cost Ender sized build plates. The height was only a problem for me once but I've run into the XY limits a few times. However, with Bambu's success, more people are focusing on the 255x255mm size (and around 255mm height). So files modeled to fit Bambu's larger build area may not fit on the older Ender sized area.
I'm not sure which printer has better software or workflow. I also don't know if the Elegoo has any significant reliability issues/bugs. The FF does not at this point. That's only a FF win if Elegoo has and doesn't fix issues.
The FF 5M will not get a multi color unit in the future. The Elegoo is supposed to.
FF's 280* nozzle temp will limit you if you try to print some higher temp filaments. This doesn't affect PLA and honestly, if you are trying to print those filaments you probably should start with an enclosed printer for best results.
The FF's power switch is on the back, in the center. Depending on where you place it this could be hard to get to.
So if you can wait I would keep watching Elegoo reviews and feedback and probably get one of the Elegoos. However, if you are looking to get printing now, this is a really nice printer and I have no trouble saying it "just works".
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Out of the box it's very fast and does good quality prints. Very quick to setup. I've had some random failures (bed adhesion failure, random stop part way through the print), but most prints have been trouble free.
Mechanically this is identical to the pro version. You can buy an enclosure kit (plexiglass and screws, you print the rest) and camera off Aliexpress. When I got it it was $28 and $19 respectively, probably more post tariffs.
I'd recommend it, especially at this price it's a huge improvement over traditional bed slingers without getting into the higher cost of other corexy models.
Looks like we cross posted, but shared my thoughts. Overall I'm happy with it and would recommend it.
Mostly depends if
A: you want it now instead of 2-3 months from now
B: you mostly want to print regular materials instead of cf etc
C: you don't need an enclosure / camera
I was going to get Centauri for someone as a gift.
I didn't read enough to know how the slicer works or if there's even an app. (I am guessing no mobile app). ?
I didn't read enough to know how the slicer works or if there's even an app. (I am guessing no mobile app). ?
There's a flash maker app. It's not super advanced but will give you % progress and let you view the camera if you install one. I used Orca as a slicer (regular one not the flash forge version).
I haven't done it yet, but you can and I plan to flash klipper to it, which gives you some more versatility in apps.
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I haven't done it yet, but you can and I plan to flash klipper to it, which gives you some more versatility in apps.
thanks for the info
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In the ~300 hours I've printed with the machine I've had very few print failures and most were on me. I had one failure that was due to the print head fan cover getting pulled off. It's just held on with magnets and clips. No idea how it got caught but it was pulled off during a print and resulted in a print failure. The other failure I've had is when I push my luck getting parts to stick to the build plate. My preference is to avoid using brims or rafts and even supports when possible. When you can pull it off you get less waste. However, sometimes you push your luck and the result is a print that fails to adhere to the build surface. My feeling is the print failures I've had would likely have failed on other good printers as they were more about pushing the limits of the state of the FDM art rather than the printer having a feeding or other issue.
To reduce my risk of build plate failures I have a spare build plate with a masking tape surface. The tape surface holds the print better vs the standard PEI plate. However, the tape surface doesn't look as nice on the printed part. For PLA I always recommend using a tape surface if you have adhesion issues. Also, if you use the taped build plate, run the auto level at the start of the print (it doesn't add much time).
Speed wise this is a fast printer. It's one of the fastest consumer printers on the market. However, I feel like most of the "500 mm/s" printers are producing reasonably similar speeds. One might take 7 hr while this FF takes 6hr. Yeah, that's a difference but if you put that same print job on an Ender 3 Pro it would take 20. If you put it on the Ender 3 V3 SE it would take 12.
The fans are louder on this one. Not crazy loud but not quiet. The noise levels were helped by buying/printing the housing kit FF offers. I so far only print PLA since the printer is in my office (no ABS or other bad fume resins in the office). The enclosure makes the printer better for ABS and other more sensitive filaments. It also reduces print noise and keeps dust off the print bed when off. I got the kit for $30 when it was on sale. It also consumed about 1.5 rolls of filament, so perhaps $20 in material ( I way reduced the infill density on the thick top parts to save filament and print time)
So for about $300 after taxes and free shipping I have an reasonably enclosed printer that does a great job with PLA prints.
Would I buy this over the Elegoo Centauri ($200+shipping) or Centauri Carbon ($300+ shipping)? Hard to say but probably not. Not because I don't think the FF 5M is a great printer. It is great and I'm very happy with mine. However, at my near $300 I'm just the cost of shipping (and several months of waiting ) away from the, on paper, nicer Centauri Carbon. Compared to the Centauri (the open frame model) the on paper differences are very smaller but they are also basically the same price after shipping.
The biggest pros I see to the FF5M are the much faster bed leveling (2 min vs something like 30) but that's only important if, like me, you change out build plates for various jobs. The other thing is the FF5M ships now vs in mid to late July. Oh, the FF5M also can do wired or wireless networking. For shop/print farm use the wired networking likely matters but most home users are likely on wireless. I guess you can also install Kliper on the printer vs using the locked down FF version already installed. I've never bothered with either.
The Elegoo has a moderately larger build volume. This printer has a 220x220x220 tall build volume which copies the Ender family. It can use low cost Ender sized build plates. The height was only a problem for me once but I've run into the XY limits a few times. However, with Bambu's success, more people are focusing on the 255x255mm size (and around 255mm height). So files modeled to fit Bambu's larger build area may not fit on the older Ender sized area.
I'm not sure which printer has better software or workflow. I also don't know if the Elegoo has any significant reliability issues/bugs. The FF does not at this point. That's only a FF win if Elegoo has and doesn't fix issues.
The FF 5M will not get a multi color unit in the future. The Elegoo is supposed to.
FF's 280* nozzle temp will limit you if you try to print some higher temp filaments. This doesn't affect PLA and honestly, if you are trying to print those filaments you probably should start with an enclosed printer for best results.
The FF's power switch is on the back, in the center. Depending on where you place it this could be hard to get to.
So if you can wait I would keep watching Elegoo reviews and feedback and probably get one of the Elegoos. However, if you are looking to get printing now, this is a really nice printer and I have no trouble saying it "just works".
In the ~300 hours I've printed with the machine I've had very few print failures and most were on me. I had one failure that was due to the print head fan cover getting pulled off. It's just held on with magnets and clips. No idea how it got caught but it was pulled off during a print and resulted in a print failure. The other failure I've had is when I push my luck getting parts to stick to the build plate. My preference is to avoid using brims or rafts and even supports when possible. When you can pull it off you get less waste. However, sometimes you push your luck and the result is a print that fails to adhere to the build surface. My feeling is the print failures I've had would likely have failed on other good printers as they were more about pushing the limits of the state of the FDM art rather than the printer having a feeding or other issue.
To reduce my risk of build plate failures I have a spare build plate with a masking tape surface. The tape surface holds the print better vs the standard PEI plate. However, the tape surface doesn't look as nice on the printed part. For PLA I always recommend using a tape surface if you have adhesion issues. Also, if you use the taped build plate, run the auto level at the start of the print (it doesn't add much time).
Speed wise this is a fast printer. It's one of the fastest consumer printers on the market. However, I feel like most of the "500 mm/s" printers are producing reasonably similar speeds. One might take 7 hr while this FF takes 6hr. Yeah, that's a difference but if you put that same print job on an Ender 3 Pro it would take 20. If you put it on the Ender 3 V3 SE it would take 12.
The fans are louder on this one. Not crazy loud but not quiet. The noise levels were helped by buying/printing the housing kit FF offers. I so far only print PLA since the printer is in my office (no ABS or other bad fume resins in the office). The enclosure makes the printer better for ABS and other more sensitive filaments. It also reduces print noise and keeps dust off the print bed when off. I got the kit for $30 when it was on sale. It also consumed about 1.5 rolls of filament, so perhaps $20 in material ( I way reduced the infill density on the thick top parts to save filament and print time)
So for about $300 after taxes and free shipping I have an reasonably enclosed printer that does a great job with PLA prints.
Would I buy this over the Elegoo Centauri ($200+shipping) or Centauri Carbon ($300+ shipping)? Hard to say but probably not. Not because I don't think the FF 5M is a great printer. It is great and I'm very happy with mine. However, at my near $300 I'm just the cost of shipping (and several months of waiting ) away from the, on paper, nicer Centauri Carbon. Compared to the Centauri (the open frame model) the on paper differences are very smaller but they are also basically the same price after shipping.
The biggest pros I see to the FF5M are the much faster bed leveling (2 min vs something like 30) but that's only important if, like me, you change out build plates for various jobs. The other thing is the FF5M ships now vs in mid to late July. Oh, the FF5M also can do wired or wireless networking. For shop/print farm use the wired networking likely matters but most home users are likely on wireless. I guess you can also install Kliper on the printer vs using the locked down FF version already installed. I've never bothered with either.
The Elegoo has a moderately larger build volume. This printer has a 220x220x220 tall build volume which copies the Ender family. It can use low cost Ender sized build plates. The height was only a problem for me once but I've run into the XY limits a few times. However, with Bambu's success, more people are focusing on the 255x255mm size (and around 255mm height). So files modeled to fit Bambu's larger build area may not fit on the older Ender sized area.
I'm not sure which printer has better software or workflow. I also don't know if the Elegoo has any significant reliability issues/bugs. The FF does not at this point. That's only a FF win if Elegoo has and doesn't fix issues.
The FF 5M will not get a multi color unit in the future. The Elegoo is supposed to.
FF's 280* nozzle temp will limit you if you try to print some higher temp filaments. This doesn't affect PLA and honestly, if you are trying to print those filaments you probably should start with an enclosed printer for best results.
The FF's power switch is on the back, in the center. Depending on where you place it this could be hard to get to.
So if you can wait I would keep watching Elegoo reviews and feedback and probably get one of the Elegoos. However, if you are looking to get printing now, this is a really nice printer and I have no trouble saying it "just works".
The only counterpoint I can add is the base centauri is now unavailable to order in the us due to tarriffs, the carbon is still available
Shows "sold out" currently on their website, where are you seeing it available?
To their credit the customer support was very nice and tried to help as much as possible, but also being in China it was always a day delay for response.
So if it works for you as for many it has, awesome printer.
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