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ASUS Zenbook 14 14" FHD+ OLED Touch Screen Laptop Intel Core Ultra 9 32GB RAM 1TB SSD Jasper Gray UX3405CA-U9321TB - $1099 at Best Buy

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trombot
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The hp onmibook flip ultra deal at Costco is much better. Cheaper, better screen, and ability to rotate the screen can be useful.

I don't know why Asus makes this model and the Vivobook S with the exact same processor and screen. The Vivobook doesn't have quite as good of build quality but is still very good and is often available for $800.
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joy192k
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I have bought both - thinking which one to keep

However this one is lighter and superior CPU. 2.8 vs 3.95 lbs

I am wondering for 14" does 3k really matter ? other than rotation and better screen what else does the Omnibook offer ?
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ryanbahri
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Quote from joy192k :
I have bought both - thinking which one to keep However this one is lighter and superior CPU. 2.8 vs 3.95 lbsI am wondering for 14" does 3k really matter ? other than rotation and better screen what else does the Omnibook offer ?
how is the battery life on both?
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joy192k
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I haven't really used them - I was also interested to know the battery life, still researching and specifically also cooling on the ASUS
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upx
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ICYMI, I recently had the worst computer experience of my life by far, with Asus, their "Warranty". And it's NOT Just Me....

Asus has a D- rating at the Better Business Bureau - Failure to respond to 83 complaint(s) filed against business
https://www.bbb.org/us/ca/fremont...1116-16870

ASUS warranty is an epic scam. [from 15-yr Asus fan]
https://www.reddit.com/r/ASUS/com...epic_scam/

I am never buying ASUS equipment again due to their poor warranty service [from 10-yr Asus fan]
https://www.reddit.com/r/ASUS/com...in_due_to/

PSA: If you ever did a warranty claim with Asus and felt like they ripped you off, read this.
https://www.reddit.com/r/ASUS/com...with_asus/

Did you get the replacement of your Asus laptop? [fought with Asus for 8 MONTHS]
https://www.quora.com/Did-you-get...r/Mady-595
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Plast8
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Quote from joy192k :
I have bought both - thinking which one to keep However this one is lighter and superior CPU. 2.8 vs 3.95 lbsI am wondering for 14" does 3k really matter ? other than rotation and better screen what else does the Omnibook offer ?
I see your point, but I think you're both right and wrong. While HP might seem like the better option for many users, those prioritizing performance would likely prefer Asus. The HP model comes with an Ultra 7 processor, whereas the Asus features an Ultra 9, which offers significantly better performance. It's also worth noting that the integrated GPU in the Ultra 9 is superior to that of the Ultra 7. That said, I agree that HP tends to perform better right out of the box. With Asus, I had to fully format the SSD and do a clean installation to fully unlock its potential. (Yes, out of the box the Asus was a super slow turtle) If someone can send me a link of HP to match Asus specs... something like HP having 14" OLED, Ultra 9 285H, 32GB RAM, 2.8 pounds.
I don't get why anyone would choose the Ultra 7—it's honestly pretty awful.
I very much appreciated Ultra 9 because I already could do a good job with adobe products like Lightroom, Photoshop, Premiere pro, Premiere rush, Premiere elements.
But converting and upscaling videos took a while... Definitely a dedicated video card is needed but not expected in this form factor.
BTW, the Asus screen can be upgraded to a 3K touchscreen if needed (check eBay)
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Plast8
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Quote from upx :
ICYMI, I recently had the worst computer experience of my life by far, with Asus, their "Warranty". And it's NOT Just Me....Asus has a D- rating at the Better Business Bureau - Failure to respond to 83 complaint(s) filed against businesshttps://www.bbb.org/us/ca/fremont/profile/wholesale-computers/asus-computer-international-1116-16870ASUS warranty is an epic scam. [from 15-yr Asus fan]https://www.reddit.com/r/ASUS/comments/1jki1c6/asus_warranty_is_an_epic_scam/I am never buying ASUS equipment again due to their poor warranty service [from 10-yr Asus fan]https://www.reddit.com/r/ASUS/comments/1e9mgqt/i_am_never_buying_asus_equipment_again_due_to/PSA: If you ever did a warranty claim with Asus and felt like they ripped you off, read this. https://www.reddit.com/r/ASUS/com...h_asus/Did you get the replacement of your Asus laptop? [fought with Asus for 8 MONTHS]https://www.quora.com/Did-you-get-the-replacement-of-your-Asus-laptop/answer/Mady-595
To be honest I used Asus laptops for about 20+ years and never had any problems with claiming warranty when needed. This time I even got an email from Asus that this laptop comes with 1yr Accidental Damage Protection which is super nice 👍 I'll try to attached a screenshot. (edit to add the screenshot)

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glassr
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Quote from trombot :
The hp onmibook flip ultra deal at Costco is much better. Cheaper, better screen, and ability to rotate the screen can be useful.

I don't know why Asus makes this model and the Vivobook S with the exact same processor and screen. The Vivobook doesn't have quite as good of build quality but is still very good and is often available for $800.

Is there a 14" omnibook?

Fwiw, my Asus zenbook 14x from Best buy 2 years old has been great.
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joy192k
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Quote from Plast8 :
I see your point, but I think you're both right and wrong. While HP might seem like the better option for many users, those prioritizing performance would likely prefer Asus. The HP model comes with an Ultra 7 processor, whereas the Asus features an Ultra 9, which offers significantly better performance. It's also worth noting that the integrated GPU in the Ultra 9 is superior to that of the Ultra 7. That said, I agree that HP tends to perform better right out of the box. With Asus, I had to fully format the SSD and do a clean installation to fully unlock its potential. (Yes, out of the box the Asus was a super slow turtle) If someone can send me a link of HP to match Asus specs... something like HP having 14" OLED, Ultra 9 285H, 32GB RAM, 2.8 pounds.
I don't get why anyone would choose the Ultra 7—it's honestly pretty awful.
I very much appreciated Ultra 9 because I already could do a good job with adobe products like Lightroom, Photoshop, Premiere pro, Premiere rush, Premiere elements.
But converting and upscaling videos took a while... Definitely a dedicated video card is needed but not expected in this form factor.
BTW, the Asus screen can be upgraded to a 3K touchscreen if needed (check eBay)

Here you go!
HP Omnibook 7 Flip 16"
16" diagonal, 3K (2880 x 1800), OLED Touchscreen, 120Hz, 400 nits, Low Blue Light
Intel Core Ultra 7 258V, 8-Core, Up to 4.8 GHz / Intel AI Boost (47 NPU TOPS)
32 GB LPDDR5x-8533 MT/s
Intel Arc 140V GPU (16GB)
1 TB PCIe Gen4 NVMe M.2 SSD
Wi-Fi 7 and Bluetooth 5.4
5MP IR camera with temporal noise reduction and privacy shutter
Backlit Keyboard
4-cell 68 Wh Li-ion polymer battery
65 W USB Type-C power adapter
Ports:
1 Thunderbolt 4 with USB Type-C 40Gbps signaling rate
1 USB Type-C 10Gbps signaling rate
2 USB Type-A 10Gbps signaling rate
1 Headphone/microphone combo
1 HDMI 2.1
HP USB-C Rechargeable MPP2.0 Tilt Natural Silver Pen

I think the 3K screen is added $200
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joy192k
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Quote from Plast8 :
I see your point, but I think you're both right and wrong. While HP might seem like the better option for many users, those prioritizing performance would likely prefer Asus. The HP model comes with an Ultra 7 processor, whereas the Asus features an Ultra 9, which offers significantly better performance. It's also worth noting that the integrated GPU in the Ultra 9 is superior to that of the Ultra 7. That said, I agree that HP tends to perform better right out of the box. With Asus, I had to fully format the SSD and do a clean installation to fully unlock its potential. (Yes, out of the box the Asus was a super slow turtle) If someone can send me a link of HP to match Asus specs... something like HP having 14" OLED, Ultra 9 285H, 32GB RAM, 2.8 pounds.
I don't get why anyone would choose the Ultra 7—it's honestly pretty awful.
I very much appreciated Ultra 9 because I already could do a good job with adobe products like Lightroom, Photoshop, Premiere pro, Premiere rush, Premiere elements.
But converting and upscaling videos took a while... Definitely a dedicated video card is needed but not expected in this form factor.
BTW, the Asus screen can be upgraded to a 3K touchscreen if needed (check eBay)

So you don't have any issues with cooling with ultra 9? Reddit is full of complaints about the single fan being inadequate for the ultra 9
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joy192k
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Quote from glassr :
Is there a 14" omnibook?

Fwiw, my Asus zenbook 14x from Best buy 2 years old has been great.

Yes they do

https://www.hp.com/us-en/shop/mdp...7984671--1
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Plast8
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Quote from joy192k :
So you don't have any issues with cooling with ultra 9? Reddit is full of complaints about the single fan being inadequate for the ultra 9
I don't have any issues with cooling... The laptop comes with MyAsus app where you can manage all the fan settings (edit for screenshot)
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Plast8
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Quote from joy192k :
Here you go!HP Omnibook 7 Flip 16"16" diagonal, 3K (2880 x 1800), OLED Touchscreen, 120Hz, 400 nits, Low Blue LightIntel Core Ultra 7 258V, 8-Core, Up to 4.8 GHz / Intel AI Boost (47 NPU TOPS)32 GB LPDDR5x-8533 MT/sIntel Arc 140V GPU (16GB)1 TB PCIe Gen4 NVMe M.2 SSDWi-Fi 7 and Bluetooth 5.45MP IR camera with temporal noise reduction and privacy shutterBacklit Keyboard4-cell 68 Wh Li-ion polymer battery65 W USB Type-C power adapterPorts:1 Thunderbolt 4 with USB Type-C 40Gbps signaling rate1 USB Type-C 10Gbps signaling rate2 USB Type-A 10Gbps signaling rate1 Headphone/microphone combo1 HDMI 2.1HP USB-C Rechargeable MPP2.0 Tilt Natural Silver PenI think the 3K screen is added $200
16" diagonal vs 14" diagonal.
Ultra 7 258V, 8-Core vs Ultra 9 285H
  • Ultra 9 285H has 16 cores and 16 threads
  • Ultra 7 258V has 8 cores and 8 threads
  • Ultra 9 285H runs at 2.90 GHz (boosting up to 5.40 GHz)
  • Ultra 7 258V operates at 2.20 GHz (boosting up to 4.80 GHz)
  • Ultra 9 285H has 24MB of L3 cache, double that of the Ultra 7 258V's 12MB
  • Both CPUs come with Intel Arc graphics, but the Ultra 9 285H has a higher turbo GPU frequency (2.35 GHz vs. 1.95 GHz)
Yes, HP undoubtedly offers superior screen quality, featuring a 120Hz refresh rate and 3K resolution.
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Quote from trombot :
The hp onmibook flip ultra deal at Costco is much better. Cheaper, better screen, and ability to rotate the screen can be useful.

I don't know why Asus makes this model and the Vivobook S with the exact same processor and screen. The Vivobook doesn't have quite as good of build quality but is still very good and is often available for $800.
And If I'm not mistaken, the Vivobook S has much better cooling setup with dual fans than the Zenbook, which not only will increase shelf-life but will help prevent general performance throttling. Even their "ExpertBook," which prides itself on being more modular and serviceable, has terrible single fan cooling where one side of the laptop runs way too hot.

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Look great, but still heavier than Lenovo.
Off-topic but does anyone know how to get a good deal on X1 Carbon? Anything with similar specs is double the price on their website and I don't see them on 3rd party retailers much

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