Eco-Worthy US via eBay[ebay.com] has ECO-WORTHY 3584Wh Emergency Power System LiFePO4+3000W 12V Inverter + 100A Charger for $869.99 - 15% off w/code THINGSYOULOVE = $739.49. Shipping is free.
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Eco-Worthy US via eBay[ebay.com] has ECO-WORTHY 3584Wh Emergency Power System LiFePO4+3000W 12V Inverter + 100A Charger for $869.99 - 15% off w/code THINGSYOULOVE = $739.49. Shipping is free.
Would this be a good idea to run with a generator that doesn't have an inverter?
You would also need to buy a 12v battery charger if you go that route. Make sure the charger can charge lithium iron phosphate batteries. Although the question is - if you have a generator already why do you want the batteries? To be able to run silently for a while or overnight?
You would also need to buy a 12v battery charger if you go that route. Make sure the charger can charge lithium iron phosphate batteries. Although the question is - if you have a generator already why do you want the batteries? To be able to run silently for a while or overnight?
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Daytime running then A/C overnight on battery
You would also need to buy a 12v battery charger if you go that route. Make sure the charger can charge lithium iron phosphate batteries. Although the question is - if you have a generator already why do you want the batteries? To be able to run silently for a while or overnight?
Are you saying that because the battery charging function built into this inverter would only work on typical clean power and not on a regular generator? Otherwise it appears the inverter here includes battery charging functionality.
You would also need to buy a 12v battery charger if you go that route. Make sure the charger can charge lithium iron phosphate batteries. Although the question is - if you have a generator already why do you want the batteries? To be able to run silently for a while or overnight?
This has a built in AC->DC charger (100A, it claims).
"Why would you want a battery/inverter setup if you already have a generator?" Yes, to avoid having your generator running continuously during an outage. Unless you really load it up, this setup should be able to get a good 12hrs+ with a fridge and some lights/devices. Run the generator for a couple hours now and then to recharge, try to show a little courtesy to neighbors. Also tends to reduce fuel consumption & noise, and improve longevity if you can get it dialed in to where your generator runs at a comfortable/efficient load level.
It can apparently act as a 'UPS' type setup where it'd be normally 'passing through' grid or generator power, with automatic failover to the battery if that's cut. Most reputable 'hybrid' inverters do. What this specific inverter does not have, however, is a Solar MPPT DC->DC charger, so if you want to charge off solar or a vehicle inverter, you'd need a separate 12V-compatible unit for that.
I don't really know if this 'brand/company' has good customer service/warranty support if something goes wrong, and that's usually among the biggest 'buyer bewares' in solar components these days. Even Victron's not great if you don't get it from a US-based dealer you can deal with, which has been around a while - and those aren't exactly everywhere. But for some perspective, their & UL certified MultiPlus II 120V/60hz '3000W' inverter/charger system is often $1200+ by itself. But, that is UL certified and often 'to code' for building installations. Neither of these units are.
Still, good for use in enclosed cargo trailers or campers., and this price is hard to beat if it arrives in good/working order (TEST YOUR STUFF ASAP!) - about half the price of a typical 5kWh (48V, UL) battery by itself. 12V/3000W system calls for some pretty thick DC wires, which is why people tend to lean to 48V inverter systems for more home-backup type use, but they do tend to be more expensive. 100A AC->DC chargers that can do 1000W+ are expensive too though.
This has a built in AC->DC charger (100A, it claims).
Yep, just wire a pigtail into AC-IN.
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"Why would you want a battery/inverter setup if you already have a generator?" Yes, to avoid having your generator running continuously during an outage. Unless you really load it up, this setup should be able to get a good 12hrs+ with a fridge and some lights/devices. Run the generator for a couple hours now and then to recharge, try to show a little courtesy to neighbors. Also tends to reduce fuel consumption & noise, and improve longevity if you can get it dialed in to where your generator runs at a comfortable/efficient load level.
It can apparently act as a 'UPS' type setup where it'd be normally 'passing through' grid or generator power, with automatic failover to the battery if that's cut. Most reputable 'hybrid' inverters do. What this specific inverter does not have, however, is a Solar MPPT DC->DC charger, so if you want to charge off solar or a vehicle inverter, you'd need a separate 12V-compatible unit for that.
Correct. That would make it an All-in-one (AIO). That can be a good thing though, as an add-on MPPT charger can be more easily scaled/upgraded to your growing panel collection, instead of limited by the built-in MPPT of an AIO.
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I don't really know if this 'brand/company' has good customer service/warranty support if something goes wrong, and that's usually among the biggest 'buyer bewares' in solar components these days.
Ecoworthy and their battery-based brand DCHouse have been a surprise in the support department. The team based out of Chatsworth warehouse and their tech team are refreshingly responsive, actually helpful, will replace faulty equipment at the drop of a hat (we see user error a lot of the DIY forum, BTW), and solicit user feedback on improvements to user experience and product development. They are currently 'doing things right'...and I hope to see them continue to do so.
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Still, good for use in enclosed cargo trailers or campers., and this price is hard to beat if it arrives in good/working order (TEST YOUR STUFF ASAP!) - about half the price of a typical 5kWh (48V, UL) battery by itself. 12V/3000W system calls for some pretty thick DC wires, which is why people tend to lean to 48V inverter systems for more home-backup type use, but they do tend to be more expensive. 100A AC->DC chargers that can do 1000W+ are expensive too though.
I'm actually surprised the 2 GA cables aren't included in this kit (the team usually thoughtfully builds these kits). You'd also want a mrbf fuse assembly to protect against short circuit if something went wrong in the inverter-charger.
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To charge the battery? Yes it would work
You would also need to buy a 12v battery charger if you go that route. Make sure the charger can charge lithium iron phosphate batteries. Although the question is - if you have a generator already why do you want the batteries? To be able to run silently for a while or overnight?
Exactly
Daytime running then A/C overnight on battery
Are you saying that because the battery charging function built into this inverter would only work on typical clean power and not on a regular generator? Otherwise it appears the inverter here includes battery charging functionality.
"Why would you want a battery/inverter setup if you already have a generator?" Yes, to avoid having your generator running continuously during an outage. Unless you really load it up, this setup should be able to get a good 12hrs+ with a fridge and some lights/devices. Run the generator for a couple hours now and then to recharge, try to show a little courtesy to neighbors. Also tends to reduce fuel consumption & noise, and improve longevity if you can get it dialed in to where your generator runs at a comfortable/efficient load level.
It can apparently act as a 'UPS' type setup where it'd be normally 'passing through' grid or generator power, with automatic failover to the battery if that's cut. Most reputable 'hybrid' inverters do. What this specific inverter does not have, however, is a Solar MPPT DC->DC charger, so if you want to charge off solar or a vehicle inverter, you'd need a separate 12V-compatible unit for that.
I don't really know if this 'brand/company' has good customer service/warranty support if something goes wrong, and that's usually among the biggest 'buyer bewares' in solar components these days. Even Victron's not great if you don't get it from a US-based dealer you can deal with, which has been around a while - and those aren't exactly everywhere. But for some perspective, their & UL certified MultiPlus II 120V/60hz '3000W' inverter/charger system is often $1200+ by itself. But, that is UL certified and often 'to code' for building installations. Neither of these units are.
Still, good for use in enclosed cargo trailers or campers., and this price is hard to beat if it arrives in good/working order (TEST YOUR STUFF ASAP!) - about half the price of a typical 5kWh (48V, UL) battery by itself. 12V/3000W system calls for some pretty thick DC wires, which is why people tend to lean to 48V inverter systems for more home-backup type use, but they do tend to be more expensive. 100A AC->DC chargers that can do 1000W+ are expensive too though.
It can apparently act as a 'UPS' type setup where it'd be normally 'passing through' grid or generator power, with automatic failover to the battery if that's cut. Most reputable 'hybrid' inverters do. What this specific inverter does not have, however, is a Solar MPPT DC->DC charger, so if you want to charge off solar or a vehicle inverter, you'd need a separate 12V-compatible unit for that.
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