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Details on how to understand the Mortgage basics and information that I understand for your learning can be accessed on this post (Click this hyperlink to go to the post); If you are new to this process and have questions this is a Must Read before asking question on the forum!


Reviving my over a decade old thread from SD and FW as the rates have gotten competitive. This thread is a SD community thread to compare and post best rates received along with their lender experience for a quick compare and estimation from a starting point.


Please note that rates will vary on quite a few factors and just because one person has a rate will not guarantee you will receive the same rate but simply use this as a guide and negotiation tactic.

All below rates are based on assumptions of certain LTV, DTI, & Excellent Credit Scores:

30 Year Fixed best rates (Assuming Good Credit & 20% down, low LTV, low DTI, etc etc):
All listed lenders are here because I shopped them and have encountered competitive pricing and not because I get any sort of a kickback....use this as a gauge for the latest but note that things can change week to week, day to day and even hour to hour:

07/14/2021 2.875% Better.com- Will consider Lender Match to beat Competitors and combine with Amex cashback (Click here for additional Forum thread details). Amex's "Digital Assist" Team @ 800-297-7500

07/14/2021 2.875% LoanDepot.com - Is competitive but works better if you have another offer for them. My LO Luke Dean
[email protected] 949-652-4521

07/14/2021 BSMFunding (David Pressel) - Call to get the latest rates (no published online). Very competitive rates; get everything in writing via email!
https://bsmfunding.mymortgage-onl...essel.html
David Pressel (NMLS: 562175)- Branch Manager - Phone: 908-208-2036
[email protected]
07/14/2021 2.5% LoanCabin [loancabin.com] - Most Competitive but refinance times have grow to almost 6 months for many people so proceed with caution as recent reviews indicate normal 1 month closing. Generally do not charge for big Lender Fees (A+B on LE) as they are under $100 in most cases; esp if appraisal is waived for your scenario.

07/14/2021 3% LenderFi - Competitive but might be slow and not work on beating other lender rates.
30 Year Fixed Jumbo Best Rates (Assuming Good Credit & 20% down):
TBD
15 year Fixed:
07/14/2021 2.0 % Better.com; matches Bankrate rates for themselves.
07/04/2020 2.5% NIH Credit Union with Lender Credit
Title Company Comparisions:
RadianTitleDirect.com - OP has used them for almost a decade with getting best rates (closed after Covid, Lender must submit order as consumer side is closed).
ALTTitle.com
https://www.valerotitle.com/ - Texas only.
Alphabetical list of other lenders (some could be non-proven without direct member experiences posted here):
  1. AimLoan - Will provide LE without hard pull if credit is frozen https://www.aimloan.com/
  2. Amerisave - will give you scores from all 3 bureaus with just a soft pull https://www.amerisave.com/
  3. Better.com https://better.com/
  4. BoxHomeLoans https://www.boxhomeloans.com/
  5. Close Your Own Loan https://www.closeyourownloan.com/...sults.aspx
  6. Colonial Mort http://www.colonialmort.com/
  7. HighTechLending http://www.hightechlending.co/Default.aspx
  8. Interactive Mortgage https://interactivemortgage.com/ Eric from IM is super rude so good luck dealing with this guy!
  9. LenderFi https://www.lenderfi.com [lenderfi.com]if the link wont work try this backend link: https://app.lenderfi.com/app/sign...r/lenderfi
  10. Loan Cabin https://www.loancabin.com/
  11. Loan Depot https://www.loandepot.com/
  12. LoanLock https://www.loanlock.com/
  13. NavyFederal CU https://www.navyfederal.org/
  14. NIH credit union (Delware, District of Columbia, Maryland, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Virginia, West Virginia) https://www.nihfcu.org/
  15. Northpointe Bank https://www.northpointe.com/
  16. Owning.com (Operates only in CA) https://owning.com/
  17. Pentagon Federal CU https://www.penfed.org/
  18. Provident Funding - will give LE without locking rate https://www.provident.com/
  19. RatePlus (California) https://www.rateplus.com/
  20. Travis Credit Union (12 North Cal Counties only) https://www.traviscu.org/ Eligibility traviscu.org
  21. United wholesale mortgages https://www.uwm.com/
  22. Watermark Home Loans https://www.watermarkhomeloans.com/
  23. West Coast Mortgage Associates (The loan broker is in So.Cal. Debbie Morgan) https://wcmtg.com/


Shahhere

Old Thread - https://slickdeals.net/e/1223863-03-06-2009-best-mortgage-rates-from-big-reputable-lenders-30year-5-15year-5-arm-s-etc

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Quote from MeAPhool :
I think a lot of people get confused with regards to "no closing cost". Specifically I think that is with regards to A+B+C (as referenced in this post by volcomssj48 - https://slickdeals.net/forums/showpost.php?p=138543920&postcount=138)

As per volcomssj48, this is a good place to go for a basic understanding of the LE (Loan Estimate) that should be provided to you by each lender once you give all of your information: https://www.consumerfinance.gov/o...-estimate/

I'm in NJ so I can't really shop Title Insurance much as it's the cost is regulated by the state, however in other states, you can really cut down some of the costs in section "C".
Good site for daily mortgage news. Subscribe to their daily mortgage rate news to learn about their predictions. Also take a look at the rest of their site.
http://www.mortgagenewsdaily.com/...age_rates/



Potential Lenders - Mentioned in Thread
*Please add to this list and add locality if applicable*

  1. Loan Cabin https://www.loancabin.com/
  2. Better.com https://better.com/
  3. Interactive Mortgage https://interactivemortgage.com/
  4. LenderFi https://www.lenderfi.com/
  5. owning.com (Operates only in CA) https://owning.com/
  6. NIH credit union (Delware, District of Columbia, Maryland, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Virginia, West Virginia) https://www.nihfcu.org/
  7. Loan Depot https://www.loandepot.com/
  8. Travis Credit Union (12 North Cal Counties only) https://www.traviscu.org/ Eligibility [traviscu.org]
  9. Pentagon Federal CU https://www.penfed.org/
  10. Interactive Mortgage https://interactivemortgage.com/
  11. NavyFederal CU https://www.navyfederal.org/
  12. United wholesale mortgages https://www.uwm.com/
  13. BoxHomeLoans https://www.boxhomeloans.com/
  14. LoanLock https://www.loanlock.com/
  15. West Coast Mortgage Associates (The loan broker is in So.Cal. Debbie Morgan) https://wcmtg.com/
  16. RatePlus (California) https://www.rateplus.com/
  17. Northpointe Bank https://www.northpointe.com/
  18. HighTechLending https://hightechlending.mortgagewebcenter.com/
  19. Close Your Own Loan https://www.closeyourownloan.com/...sults.aspx
  20. AimLoan - will give LE without hard pull if credit is frozen https://www.aimloan.com/
  21. Amerisave - will give you scores from all 3 bureaus with just a soft pull
    https://www.amerisave.com/
  22. Provident - will give LE without locking rate https://www.provident.com/ Best Credit Back with 60% LTV or better.
  23. Watermark Home Loans https://www.watermarkhomeloans.com/ Skip these guys. They are being rude to Slickdealers. In one occasion they have explicitly said they don't want to do business with people from Slickdeals. They also have an approach where they give you the best rate initially and just raise it more each time you ask.
  24. Colonial Mort http://www.colonialmort.com/
  25. Annie Mac https://www.annie-mac.com/ Licensed in these states https://www.annie-mac.com/page/licensed-states/
  26. Rate Rabbit https://www.raterabbit.com/ Licensed in MA and others [raterabbit.com]

Discount lenders who DO NOT accept fully documented in tax returns self-employment income:
Owning.com
BoxHomeLoans
Lower.com

Discount Lenders that DO accept fully documented in tax returns self-employment income:
Sebonic
Caliber
Sage

Title Company Shopping
AltTitle.com
mytitlegenius.com (formerly entitle direct)
TO AVOID - Settlement LTD (local Pittsburgh run away from them - high cost, very bad service, lot of delays)


Feel Free to Add Sections for Each Lender - MeAPhool

Loan Cabin - DetailsWARNING. DO NOT GO WITH LOAN CABIN. TRUST ME.
I would have lost the home if i was trying to buy a house.
I just had a normal refi and it took then 127 days to close. out of the 27 emails i sent, they responded to 3. I even had to call (complain) their main office 2 times to get a response to any emails. they screwed the closing paperwork as well.


Loan Cabin does not charge lender fees. Actually all of this is in their FAQ but of course nobody reads anything and wants everything spoon fed.

This means A+B (reference the link above in the wiki regarding Loan Estimate) in the Loan Estimate should be 0 (as long as your appraisal is waived).

You will be responsible for Title Cost (of course you can shop that to your heart's delight)
You will be responsible for Recording Fee in your county
You will be responsible for Escrows (if you so choose OR if you are close to Homeowner's OR Property Tax payment - though you can negotiate and show evidence to get it waived. Most lender's will waive it if you are choosing not to escrow and you can show proof that you paid the upcoming Property Tax or Homeowner's Insurance)

You will be responsible for Prepaid Interest (this isn't a cost. If you didn't refinance, you'd be paying the interest at your current mortgage rate which I assume would be higher).

Lender Credit - If this covers A+B+C+E then you have a no-cost refinance. If you have a surplus aside from A+B+C+E, then technically you made money on your refinance.


If you apply and do no hear back for 3 days, then on the 3rd business day, reach out to [email protected]. They will usually help get a response on your application within a day.



If the information in this WIKI does not cover your questions, then please ask. We will answer and update WIKI accordingly.

Thanks - MeAPhool

Quote from arouncoumar :
For those needing clarity on LC closing costs, I was on the same boat. See what they charge here https://www.dropbox.com/s/r30ecea...t.png?dl=0
Quote from PeterLegend :
Here is a photo of my loan estimate from Loan Cabin, my lender credits should be closer to 3K based on my initial conversations with Bob so i'm following up with him on that.

I do see title insurance in my estimate. I reached out to Owning but I didn't quality for the no cost refinance option since my LTV was 73%, it has to be 50% or lower when I spoke to them.

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missourian
07-26-2020 at 04:54 PM.
07-26-2020 at 04:54 PM.
Quote from sd72986 :
My better.com refi in TX had $150 refi fee also. Not sure it is mandatory, but consistent with your experience.

Btw, when you applied to LoanCabin, (i) how long did it take to hear back from them and (ii) when did they hard pull your credit compared to your initial app?
It took 4 business days to get a response and I told them to pull my credit to give me a accurate quote/LE. I locked on that day itself.
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Quote from missourian :
It took 4 business days to get a response and I told them to pull my credit to give me a accurate quote/LE. I locked on that day itself.
I see. Thanks so much for your helpful reply and for the information!
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07-26-2020 at 08:38 PM.
07-26-2020 at 08:38 PM.
I ran my credit with the lender on Friday. about how many days can I have new lenders run my credit without another big credit hit
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07-26-2020 at 09:29 PM.
07-26-2020 at 09:29 PM.
Quote from jrornelas101 :
I ran my credit with the lender on Friday. about how many days can I have new lenders run my credit without another big credit hit

14 calendar days on the same line business
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Quote from missourian :
14 calendar days on the same line business
Quote from jrornelas101 :
I ran my credit with the lender on Friday. about how many days can I have new lenders run my credit without another big credit hit
Check this from the FICO folks: https://www.myfico.com/credit-edu...-inquiries
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07-27-2020 at 07:58 AM.
07-27-2020 at 07:58 AM.
Quote from Snarl16 :
That's what I figured but WM did and LC did not.
If you go through with LC they might still do it. Some lenders do the appraisal waiver check only after you have signed the initial set of disclosures.
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Lifeinabox
07-27-2020 at 09:26 AM.
07-27-2020 at 09:26 AM.
Ugh, according to LC rates crept up today. Still holding off on locking.
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07-27-2020 at 10:08 AM.
07-27-2020 at 10:08 AM.
Quote from Lifeinabox :
Ugh, according to LC rates crept up today. Still holding off on locking.
Confirmed that HTL is showing the same movement - the rate with the largest lender credit shifted from 2.875% to 3%, as of this morning. I previously locked with LC, but the HTL page is helpful for showing rate movement due to their transparent pricing display.
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07-27-2020 at 10:10 AM.
07-27-2020 at 10:10 AM.
Quick question to Pros, What is the best way to get LE from watermark ?
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Quote from mratlanta :
Quick question to Pros, What is the best way to get LE from watermark ?
If you have not submitted an application already. Use the NMLS search method I posted in the past and contact an agent directly. Much faster turn around time.

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If you are having problems with Watermark getting back to you after you submit a request for an estimate try a different rep with that company. It seems that when you do a quote on the main website they pick someone from their group and you don't know how overworked they are. In fact I suggest you do this method below without even doing a request on their website.

What I did was go to https://www.nmlsconsumeraccess.or...=watermark and click on random names. You can see what state they are licensed in. You can then just do a quick google search for their name and it will bring you to the WaterMark website.

You can email one or email a couple. Do not use the webform use their actual email. See who responds quickly and is willing to work with the rate for you. Then if you like them you can apply for Watermark via their link and your case will be assigned to them.

I know this method worked well at Watermark but it should also work for places like Loan Cabin. Here is their link https://www.nmlsconsumeraccess.or...an%20cabin Doing a google search for the name will not get them their direct email address most times with LC but you can at least find them on Zillow or something and send them a message.

Their is also a filter at the top to filter by "Any Regulator" which you can pick your state.
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07-27-2020 at 10:18 AM.
Quote from KrustyVT :
Confirmed that HTL is showing the same movement - the rate with the largest lender credit shifted from 2.875% to 3%, as of this morning. I previously locked with LC, but the HTL page is helpful for showing rate movement due to their transparent pricing display.
Thanks for the tip. Can you provide a link to the page?
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Thanks for the tip. Can you provide a link to the page?
https://hightechlending.mortgagew...CheckRates
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Quote from nicemann :
If you have not submitted an application already. Use the NMLS search method I posted in the past and contact an agent directly. Much faster turn around time.
I got the response in email from Watermark. But Better is saying they don't accept email offers they want official loan document. Whether Watermark soft pull like Better and provide official loan document ?
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Quote from mratlanta :
I got the response in email from Watermark. But Better is saying they don't accept email offers they want official loan document. Whether Watermark soft pull like Better and provide official loan document ?
No. For WM LE you need to allow HP. Its been discussed here before. Multiple HPs if done within 14 days will not impact your credit score. So apply to as many places as you need within that 14 day window.
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Quote from HarryS4062 :
No. For WM LE you need to allow HP. Its been discussed here before. Multiple HPs if done within 14 days will not impact your credit score. So apply to as many places as you need within that 14 day window.
I am sorry what is HP ? i am new to the discussion.
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