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Details on how to understand the Mortgage basics and information that I understand for your learning can be accessed on this post (Click this hyperlink to go to the post); If you are new to this process and have questions this is a Must Read before asking question on the forum!


Reviving my over a decade old thread from SD and FW as the rates have gotten competitive. This thread is a SD community thread to compare and post best rates received along with their lender experience for a quick compare and estimation from a starting point.


Please note that rates will vary on quite a few factors and just because one person has a rate will not guarantee you will receive the same rate but simply use this as a guide and negotiation tactic.

All below rates are based on assumptions of certain LTV, DTI, & Excellent Credit Scores:

30 Year Fixed best rates (Assuming Good Credit & 20% down, low LTV, low DTI, etc etc):
All listed lenders are here because I shopped them and have encountered competitive pricing and not because I get any sort of a kickback....use this as a gauge for the latest but note that things can change week to week, day to day and even hour to hour:

07/14/2021 2.875% Better.com- Will consider Lender Match to beat Competitors and combine with Amex cashback (Click here for additional Forum thread details). Amex's "Digital Assist" Team @ 800-297-7500

07/14/2021 2.875% LoanDepot.com - Is competitive but works better if you have another offer for them. My LO Luke Dean
[email protected] 949-652-4521

07/14/2021 BSMFunding (David Pressel) - Call to get the latest rates (no published online). Very competitive rates; get everything in writing via email!
https://bsmfunding.mymortgage-onl...essel.html
David Pressel (NMLS: 562175)- Branch Manager - Phone: 908-208-2036
[email protected]
07/14/2021 2.5% LoanCabin [loancabin.com] - Most Competitive but refinance times have grow to almost 6 months for many people so proceed with caution as recent reviews indicate normal 1 month closing. Generally do not charge for big Lender Fees (A+B on LE) as they are under $100 in most cases; esp if appraisal is waived for your scenario.

07/14/2021 3% LenderFi - Competitive but might be slow and not work on beating other lender rates.
30 Year Fixed Jumbo Best Rates (Assuming Good Credit & 20% down):
TBD
15 year Fixed:
07/14/2021 2.0 % Better.com; matches Bankrate rates for themselves.
07/04/2020 2.5% NIH Credit Union with Lender Credit
Title Company Comparisions:
RadianTitleDirect.com - OP has used them for almost a decade with getting best rates (closed after Covid, Lender must submit order as consumer side is closed).
ALTTitle.com
https://www.valerotitle.com/ - Texas only.
Alphabetical list of other lenders (some could be non-proven without direct member experiences posted here):
  1. AimLoan - Will provide LE without hard pull if credit is frozen https://www.aimloan.com/
  2. Amerisave - will give you scores from all 3 bureaus with just a soft pull https://www.amerisave.com/
  3. Better.com https://better.com/
  4. BoxHomeLoans https://www.boxhomeloans.com/
  5. Close Your Own Loan https://www.closeyourownloan.com/...sults.aspx
  6. Colonial Mort http://www.colonialmort.com/
  7. HighTechLending http://www.hightechlending.co/Default.aspx
  8. Interactive Mortgage https://interactivemortgage.com/ Eric from IM is super rude so good luck dealing with this guy!
  9. LenderFi https://www.lenderfi.com [lenderfi.com]if the link wont work try this backend link: https://app.lenderfi.com/app/sign...r/lenderfi
  10. Loan Cabin https://www.loancabin.com/
  11. Loan Depot https://www.loandepot.com/
  12. LoanLock https://www.loanlock.com/
  13. NavyFederal CU https://www.navyfederal.org/
  14. NIH credit union (Delware, District of Columbia, Maryland, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Virginia, West Virginia) https://www.nihfcu.org/
  15. Northpointe Bank https://www.northpointe.com/
  16. Owning.com (Operates only in CA) https://owning.com/
  17. Pentagon Federal CU https://www.penfed.org/
  18. Provident Funding - will give LE without locking rate https://www.provident.com/
  19. RatePlus (California) https://www.rateplus.com/
  20. Travis Credit Union (12 North Cal Counties only) https://www.traviscu.org/ Eligibility traviscu.org
  21. United wholesale mortgages https://www.uwm.com/
  22. Watermark Home Loans https://www.watermarkhomeloans.com/
  23. West Coast Mortgage Associates (The loan broker is in So.Cal. Debbie Morgan) https://wcmtg.com/


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Quote from MeAPhool :
I think a lot of people get confused with regards to "no closing cost". Specifically I think that is with regards to A+B+C (as referenced in this post by volcomssj48 - https://slickdeals.net/forums/showpost.php?p=138543920&postcount=138)

As per volcomssj48, this is a good place to go for a basic understanding of the LE (Loan Estimate) that should be provided to you by each lender once you give all of your information: https://www.consumerfinance.gov/o...-estimate/

I'm in NJ so I can't really shop Title Insurance much as it's the cost is regulated by the state, however in other states, you can really cut down some of the costs in section "C".
Good site for daily mortgage news. Subscribe to their daily mortgage rate news to learn about their predictions. Also take a look at the rest of their site.
http://www.mortgagenewsdaily.com/...age_rates/



Potential Lenders - Mentioned in Thread
*Please add to this list and add locality if applicable*

  1. Loan Cabin https://www.loancabin.com/
  2. Better.com https://better.com/
  3. Interactive Mortgage https://interactivemortgage.com/
  4. LenderFi https://www.lenderfi.com/
  5. owning.com (Operates only in CA) https://owning.com/
  6. NIH credit union (Delware, District of Columbia, Maryland, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Virginia, West Virginia) https://www.nihfcu.org/
  7. Loan Depot https://www.loandepot.com/
  8. Travis Credit Union (12 North Cal Counties only) https://www.traviscu.org/ Eligibility [traviscu.org]
  9. Pentagon Federal CU https://www.penfed.org/
  10. Interactive Mortgage https://interactivemortgage.com/
  11. NavyFederal CU https://www.navyfederal.org/
  12. United wholesale mortgages https://www.uwm.com/
  13. BoxHomeLoans https://www.boxhomeloans.com/
  14. LoanLock https://www.loanlock.com/
  15. West Coast Mortgage Associates (The loan broker is in So.Cal. Debbie Morgan) https://wcmtg.com/
  16. RatePlus (California) https://www.rateplus.com/
  17. Northpointe Bank https://www.northpointe.com/
  18. HighTechLending https://hightechlending.mortgagewebcenter.com/
  19. Close Your Own Loan https://www.closeyourownloan.com/...sults.aspx
  20. AimLoan - will give LE without hard pull if credit is frozen https://www.aimloan.com/
  21. Amerisave - will give you scores from all 3 bureaus with just a soft pull
    https://www.amerisave.com/
  22. Provident - will give LE without locking rate https://www.provident.com/ Best Credit Back with 60% LTV or better.
  23. Watermark Home Loans https://www.watermarkhomeloans.com/ Skip these guys. They are being rude to Slickdealers. In one occasion they have explicitly said they don't want to do business with people from Slickdeals. They also have an approach where they give you the best rate initially and just raise it more each time you ask.
  24. Colonial Mort http://www.colonialmort.com/
  25. Annie Mac https://www.annie-mac.com/ Licensed in these states https://www.annie-mac.com/page/licensed-states/
  26. Rate Rabbit https://www.raterabbit.com/ Licensed in MA and others [raterabbit.com]

Discount lenders who DO NOT accept fully documented in tax returns self-employment income:
Owning.com
BoxHomeLoans
Lower.com

Discount Lenders that DO accept fully documented in tax returns self-employment income:
Sebonic
Caliber
Sage

Title Company Shopping
AltTitle.com
mytitlegenius.com (formerly entitle direct)
TO AVOID - Settlement LTD (local Pittsburgh run away from them - high cost, very bad service, lot of delays)


Feel Free to Add Sections for Each Lender - MeAPhool

Loan Cabin - DetailsWARNING. DO NOT GO WITH LOAN CABIN. TRUST ME.
I would have lost the home if i was trying to buy a house.
I just had a normal refi and it took then 127 days to close. out of the 27 emails i sent, they responded to 3. I even had to call (complain) their main office 2 times to get a response to any emails. they screwed the closing paperwork as well.


Loan Cabin does not charge lender fees. Actually all of this is in their FAQ but of course nobody reads anything and wants everything spoon fed.

This means A+B (reference the link above in the wiki regarding Loan Estimate) in the Loan Estimate should be 0 (as long as your appraisal is waived).

You will be responsible for Title Cost (of course you can shop that to your heart's delight)
You will be responsible for Recording Fee in your county
You will be responsible for Escrows (if you so choose OR if you are close to Homeowner's OR Property Tax payment - though you can negotiate and show evidence to get it waived. Most lender's will waive it if you are choosing not to escrow and you can show proof that you paid the upcoming Property Tax or Homeowner's Insurance)

You will be responsible for Prepaid Interest (this isn't a cost. If you didn't refinance, you'd be paying the interest at your current mortgage rate which I assume would be higher).

Lender Credit - If this covers A+B+C+E then you have a no-cost refinance. If you have a surplus aside from A+B+C+E, then technically you made money on your refinance.


If you apply and do no hear back for 3 days, then on the 3rd business day, reach out to [email protected]. They will usually help get a response on your application within a day.



If the information in this WIKI does not cover your questions, then please ask. We will answer and update WIKI accordingly.

Thanks - MeAPhool

Quote from arouncoumar :
For those needing clarity on LC closing costs, I was on the same boat. See what they charge here https://www.dropbox.com/s/r30ecea...t.png?dl=0
Quote from PeterLegend :
Here is a photo of my loan estimate from Loan Cabin, my lender credits should be closer to 3K based on my initial conversations with Bob so i'm following up with him on that.

I do see title insurance in my estimate. I reached out to Owning but I didn't quality for the no cost refinance option since my LTV was 73%, it has to be 50% or lower when I spoke to them.

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07-28-2020 at 11:45 AM.
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Quote from MarkB2914 :
Loan Cabin finally got back to me with Loan Estimate. 2.625 with 2500 credit fyi. Sent if off to better to see what they can do with it. Crossing my fingers!
That's from today? What are the other details - loan size, LTV, location, etc...
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Quote from David9569 :
Anybody have any luck recently getting in touch with Yanahi from Caliber loans? I know she's busy, but haven't gotten any response. Also for those working with her, have you gotten competitive LE?

My contact has been sporadic and the last one was on Friday after getting incorrect disclosures. She spoke to me at the end of the day after i emailed a scathing email as I was no happy and her response was that it was auto-generated and that the corrected documents would come but that they were delayed with the SD effect. As of this writing I dont have them so I am not wasting time chasing them for what its worth.


I did get the initial LE along with several other members who were able to parlay that to other lenders in time. Locked LE is what I dont have or have them but are grossly incorrect.


Frankly speaking you'll need to chase her to get what you need and if the turn around time is not great then I'd use the LE as you choose and move on from them. They want 60 day lock so a lot can change from now to then fyi.



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Quote from shahhere :
My contact has been sporadic and the last one was on Friday after getting incorrect disclosures. She spoke to me at the end of the day after i emailed a scathing email as I was no happy and her response was that it was auto-generated and that the corrected documents would come but that they were delayed with the SD effect. As of this writing I dont have them so I am not wasting time chasing them for what its worth.


I did get the initial LE along with several other members who were able to parlay that to other lenders in time. Locked LE is what I dont have or have them but are grossly incorrect.


Frankly speaking you'll need to chase her to get what you need and if the turn around time is not great then I'd use the LE as you choose and move on from them. They want 60 day lock so a lot can change from now to then fyi.



Shahhere
I actually finally got a hold of her and am on hold now. Yippee! Really getting an LE accurate or not is the goal. She's got me on hold, but I'm worried it's not going to come back great...
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07-28-2020 at 02:05 PM.
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Quote from David9569 :
I actually finally got a hold of her and am on hold now. Yippee! Really getting an LE accurate or not is the goal. She's got me on hold, but I'm worried it's not going to come back great...

If you are discussing a Competing LE; then that sounds right as she punts it over to someone else who will approve the "Beat" offer and will come back with that.



Do you plan on using her or getting her to give you a LE that is good to use that for a PM somewhere?


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Quote from shahhere :
If you are discussing a Competing LE; then that sounds right as she punts it over to someone else who will approve the "Beat" offer and will come back with that.



Do you plan on using her or getting her to give you a LE that is good to use that for a PM somewhere?


Shahhere
Still on hold... most likely using her to help with Better... but until I have an offer, can't say for sure. I mean she has to beat Better by 2500 to be worth it...

She didn't ask for the beat offer though, even though I mentioned you. Didn't realize I'd be on hold until the end of time...
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Quote from David9569 :
Still on hold... most likely using her to help with Better... but until I have an offer, can't say for sure. I mean she has to beat Better by 2500 to be worth it...
She has said to me that if you are calling (others) that its best to have the Competing LE on hand to send to her and that if its "Locked" it helps her get the best offer back to you.


Yea, well keep them in your back pocket and focus on Better as its been slow. Get a LE and let me know or PM on what you end up with Smilie , good luck.



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Quote from shahhere :
She has said to me that if you are calling (others) that its best to have the Competing LE on hand to send to her and that if its "Locked" it helps her get the best offer back to you.


Yea, well keep them in your back pocket and focus on Better as its been slow. Get a LE and let me know or PM on what you end up with , good luck.



Shahhere
Yes, now I know all of this after talking to her Smilie Unfortunately neither LoanCabin or Better's LE shows as locked. I took a screenshot off of Better's site to show it is locked, and I have e-mail proof on LoanCabin's end.
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Quote from HarryS4062 :
I disagree.
Most lenders will give the same rates discussed here for cashout as well with slightly higher point/lower lender fee. For example on 15 year you should be able to get 2.375 with 0 points (pay only closing costs) and 30 year you should be able to get 2.625 with 0 points (pay only closing costs) if you have 760+ credit, LTV of 70+, shop around and have a loan amount of 300K+.
Usually it is only 0.25 more in fee for a cashout..if you go to loancabin.com you can get an instant quote with and without cashout without entering any details.
HarryS4062I disagree.
Most lenders will give the same rates discussed here for cashout as well with slightly higher point/lower lender fee. For example on 15 year you should be able to get 2.375 with 0 points (pay only closing costs) and 30 year you should be able to get 2.625 with 0 points (pay only closing costs) if you have 760+ credit, LTV of 70+, shop around and have a loan amount of 300K+.
Usually it is only 0.25 more in fee for a cashout..if you go to loancabin.com you can get an instant quote with and without cashout without entering any details.
I contacted them today to inquire about a regular refinance, no cash out and it was

Cash out refinance-
4.125%

A-- $1,916
B- $614
C- $1749
Total: $4279

Straight refinance and no cash out
3.375% with same points.

They didn't offer any credits. Ughhhhhh
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Do you have to ask for a lenders credit? does this get added to the loan?
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LC got back to me with a 2.625% 30 year jumbo loan in CA at 44% LTV. A+B+C = $1,780, E+F+G+H = $893 minus $1000 lender credit. Looks like it'll be $1,673 out of pocket for this rate. I sent to Better to see if they'd beat it. Would still come out on top with the AMEX $2500 credit if Better matches. If not, gotta decide if it makes sense to pay that $1,673 for 2.625% or maybe go to a 2.750% with no costs.
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Quote from Methodman :
LC got back to me with a 2.625% 30 year jumbo loan in CA at 44% LTV. A+B+C = $1,780, E+F+G+H = $893 minus $1000 lender credit. Looks like it'll be $1,673 out of pocket for this rate. I sent to Better to see if they'd beat it. Would still come out on top with the AMEX $2500 credit if Better matches. If not, gotta decide if it makes sense to pay that $1,673 for 2.625% or maybe go to a 2.750% with no costs.
I just locked a similar deal with LC though my E+F+G+H is slightly higher not including my 8 months of escrow.
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Quote from dikomo :
I got 2.25% 15 years fixed from Rateplus.com
I am in Califonia.
510,000 loan amount ~40% LTV
A+B+C =~ 1367 with lender credit $1628

Should I still try to have Better.com match so I get extra from Amex offer? How's better.com response and process ?
Rateplus agent is pretty quick response so far.
Are you going with Rateplus? Is it a true no cost no points rate of 2.25% that they are advertising?
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Quote from quizzer :
Are you going with Rateplus? Is it a true no cost no points rate of 2.25% that they are advertising?
Quizzer- Go to LoanCabin.com theyll beat both Rateplus and Better.
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Quote from Joanneitaly1958 :
Quizzer- Go to LoanCabin.com theyll beat both Rateplus and Better.
Should I get a LE from rateplus and go to Loancabin or not needed?
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Rates I'm seeing on loancabin look great... but I can't get an actual response from them. How long is it taking??
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