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Details on how to understand the Mortgage basics and information that I understand for your learning can be accessed on this post (Click this hyperlink to go to the post); If you are new to this process and have questions this is a Must Read before asking question on the forum!


Reviving my over a decade old thread from SD and FW as the rates have gotten competitive. This thread is a SD community thread to compare and post best rates received along with their lender experience for a quick compare and estimation from a starting point.


Please note that rates will vary on quite a few factors and just because one person has a rate will not guarantee you will receive the same rate but simply use this as a guide and negotiation tactic.

All below rates are based on assumptions of certain LTV, DTI, & Excellent Credit Scores:

30 Year Fixed best rates (Assuming Good Credit & 20% down, low LTV, low DTI, etc etc):
All listed lenders are here because I shopped them and have encountered competitive pricing and not because I get any sort of a kickback....use this as a gauge for the latest but note that things can change week to week, day to day and even hour to hour:

07/14/2021 2.875% Better.com- Will consider Lender Match to beat Competitors and combine with Amex cashback (Click here for additional Forum thread details). Amex's "Digital Assist" Team @ 800-297-7500

07/14/2021 2.875% LoanDepot.com - Is competitive but works better if you have another offer for them. My LO Luke Dean
[email protected] 949-652-4521

07/14/2021 BSMFunding (David Pressel) - Call to get the latest rates (no published online). Very competitive rates; get everything in writing via email!
https://bsmfunding.mymortgage-onl...essel.html
David Pressel (NMLS: 562175)- Branch Manager - Phone: 908-208-2036
[email protected]
07/14/2021 2.5% LoanCabin [loancabin.com] - Most Competitive but refinance times have grow to almost 6 months for many people so proceed with caution as recent reviews indicate normal 1 month closing. Generally do not charge for big Lender Fees (A+B on LE) as they are under $100 in most cases; esp if appraisal is waived for your scenario.

07/14/2021 3% LenderFi - Competitive but might be slow and not work on beating other lender rates.
30 Year Fixed Jumbo Best Rates (Assuming Good Credit & 20% down):
TBD
15 year Fixed:
07/14/2021 2.0 % Better.com; matches Bankrate rates for themselves.
07/04/2020 2.5% NIH Credit Union with Lender Credit
Title Company Comparisions:
RadianTitleDirect.com - OP has used them for almost a decade with getting best rates (closed after Covid, Lender must submit order as consumer side is closed).
ALTTitle.com
https://www.valerotitle.com/ - Texas only.
Alphabetical list of other lenders (some could be non-proven without direct member experiences posted here):
  1. AimLoan - Will provide LE without hard pull if credit is frozen https://www.aimloan.com/
  2. Amerisave - will give you scores from all 3 bureaus with just a soft pull https://www.amerisave.com/
  3. Better.com https://better.com/
  4. BoxHomeLoans https://www.boxhomeloans.com/
  5. Close Your Own Loan https://www.closeyourownloan.com/...sults.aspx
  6. Colonial Mort http://www.colonialmort.com/
  7. HighTechLending http://www.hightechlending.co/Default.aspx
  8. Interactive Mortgage https://interactivemortgage.com/ Eric from IM is super rude so good luck dealing with this guy!
  9. LenderFi https://www.lenderfi.com [lenderfi.com]if the link wont work try this backend link: https://app.lenderfi.com/app/sign...r/lenderfi
  10. Loan Cabin https://www.loancabin.com/
  11. Loan Depot https://www.loandepot.com/
  12. LoanLock https://www.loanlock.com/
  13. NavyFederal CU https://www.navyfederal.org/
  14. NIH credit union (Delware, District of Columbia, Maryland, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Virginia, West Virginia) https://www.nihfcu.org/
  15. Northpointe Bank https://www.northpointe.com/
  16. Owning.com (Operates only in CA) https://owning.com/
  17. Pentagon Federal CU https://www.penfed.org/
  18. Provident Funding - will give LE without locking rate https://www.provident.com/
  19. RatePlus (California) https://www.rateplus.com/
  20. Travis Credit Union (12 North Cal Counties only) https://www.traviscu.org/ Eligibility traviscu.org
  21. United wholesale mortgages https://www.uwm.com/
  22. Watermark Home Loans https://www.watermarkhomeloans.com/
  23. West Coast Mortgage Associates (The loan broker is in So.Cal. Debbie Morgan) https://wcmtg.com/


Shahhere

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Quote from MeAPhool :
I think a lot of people get confused with regards to "no closing cost". Specifically I think that is with regards to A+B+C (as referenced in this post by volcomssj48 - https://slickdeals.net/forums/showpost.php?p=138543920&postcount=138)

As per volcomssj48, this is a good place to go for a basic understanding of the LE (Loan Estimate) that should be provided to you by each lender once you give all of your information: https://www.consumerfinance.gov/o...-estimate/

I'm in NJ so I can't really shop Title Insurance much as it's the cost is regulated by the state, however in other states, you can really cut down some of the costs in section "C".
Good site for daily mortgage news. Subscribe to their daily mortgage rate news to learn about their predictions. Also take a look at the rest of their site.
http://www.mortgagenewsdaily.com/...age_rates/



Potential Lenders - Mentioned in Thread
*Please add to this list and add locality if applicable*

  1. Loan Cabin https://www.loancabin.com/
  2. Better.com https://better.com/
  3. Interactive Mortgage https://interactivemortgage.com/
  4. LenderFi https://www.lenderfi.com/
  5. owning.com (Operates only in CA) https://owning.com/
  6. NIH credit union (Delware, District of Columbia, Maryland, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Virginia, West Virginia) https://www.nihfcu.org/
  7. Loan Depot https://www.loandepot.com/
  8. Travis Credit Union (12 North Cal Counties only) https://www.traviscu.org/ Eligibility [traviscu.org]
  9. Pentagon Federal CU https://www.penfed.org/
  10. Interactive Mortgage https://interactivemortgage.com/
  11. NavyFederal CU https://www.navyfederal.org/
  12. United wholesale mortgages https://www.uwm.com/
  13. BoxHomeLoans https://www.boxhomeloans.com/
  14. LoanLock https://www.loanlock.com/
  15. West Coast Mortgage Associates (The loan broker is in So.Cal. Debbie Morgan) https://wcmtg.com/
  16. RatePlus (California) https://www.rateplus.com/
  17. Northpointe Bank https://www.northpointe.com/
  18. HighTechLending https://hightechlending.mortgagewebcenter.com/
  19. Close Your Own Loan https://www.closeyourownloan.com/...sults.aspx
  20. AimLoan - will give LE without hard pull if credit is frozen https://www.aimloan.com/
  21. Amerisave - will give you scores from all 3 bureaus with just a soft pull
    https://www.amerisave.com/
  22. Provident - will give LE without locking rate https://www.provident.com/ Best Credit Back with 60% LTV or better.
  23. Watermark Home Loans https://www.watermarkhomeloans.com/ Skip these guys. They are being rude to Slickdealers. In one occasion they have explicitly said they don't want to do business with people from Slickdeals. They also have an approach where they give you the best rate initially and just raise it more each time you ask.
  24. Colonial Mort http://www.colonialmort.com/
  25. Annie Mac https://www.annie-mac.com/ Licensed in these states https://www.annie-mac.com/page/licensed-states/
  26. Rate Rabbit https://www.raterabbit.com/ Licensed in MA and others [raterabbit.com]

Discount lenders who DO NOT accept fully documented in tax returns self-employment income:
Owning.com
BoxHomeLoans
Lower.com

Discount Lenders that DO accept fully documented in tax returns self-employment income:
Sebonic
Caliber
Sage

Title Company Shopping
AltTitle.com
mytitlegenius.com (formerly entitle direct)
TO AVOID - Settlement LTD (local Pittsburgh run away from them - high cost, very bad service, lot of delays)


Feel Free to Add Sections for Each Lender - MeAPhool

Loan Cabin - DetailsWARNING. DO NOT GO WITH LOAN CABIN. TRUST ME.
I would have lost the home if i was trying to buy a house.
I just had a normal refi and it took then 127 days to close. out of the 27 emails i sent, they responded to 3. I even had to call (complain) their main office 2 times to get a response to any emails. they screwed the closing paperwork as well.


Loan Cabin does not charge lender fees. Actually all of this is in their FAQ but of course nobody reads anything and wants everything spoon fed.

This means A+B (reference the link above in the wiki regarding Loan Estimate) in the Loan Estimate should be 0 (as long as your appraisal is waived).

You will be responsible for Title Cost (of course you can shop that to your heart's delight)
You will be responsible for Recording Fee in your county
You will be responsible for Escrows (if you so choose OR if you are close to Homeowner's OR Property Tax payment - though you can negotiate and show evidence to get it waived. Most lender's will waive it if you are choosing not to escrow and you can show proof that you paid the upcoming Property Tax or Homeowner's Insurance)

You will be responsible for Prepaid Interest (this isn't a cost. If you didn't refinance, you'd be paying the interest at your current mortgage rate which I assume would be higher).

Lender Credit - If this covers A+B+C+E then you have a no-cost refinance. If you have a surplus aside from A+B+C+E, then technically you made money on your refinance.


If you apply and do no hear back for 3 days, then on the 3rd business day, reach out to [email protected]. They will usually help get a response on your application within a day.



If the information in this WIKI does not cover your questions, then please ask. We will answer and update WIKI accordingly.

Thanks - MeAPhool

Quote from arouncoumar :
For those needing clarity on LC closing costs, I was on the same boat. See what they charge here https://www.dropbox.com/s/r30ecea...t.png?dl=0
Quote from PeterLegend :
Here is a photo of my loan estimate from Loan Cabin, my lender credits should be closer to 3K based on my initial conversations with Bob so i'm following up with him on that.

I do see title insurance in my estimate. I reached out to Owning but I didn't quality for the no cost refinance option since my LTV was 73%, it has to be 50% or lower when I spoke to them.

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07-31-2020 at 04:28 PM.
07-31-2020 at 04:28 PM.
Quote from dikomo :
Those of you with LoanCabin's LE, do you still have to pay for closing costs? Or there is lenders credit to cover it?
My A+B = 0, and my lender credit just about compensates for all of my title cost. If I can lower the title cost, I will have some left over for recording fee & prepaid interest.

If nothing change on my current LE, I break even in 2 months.
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Quote from MeAPhool :
My A+B = 0, and my lender credit just about compensates for all of my title cost. If I can lower the title cost, I will have some left over for recording fee & prepaid interest.

If nothing change on my current LE, I break even in 2 months.
Isn't Loan Cabin charge "Origination Fee" (Which will be A)?

How come A + B =0?

You are getting great deal
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Quote from MeSandy :
Isn't Loan Cabin charge "Origination Fee" (Which will be A)?

How come A + B =0?

You are getting great deal
Nope, no origination fee on mine and I think a lot of other members said the same.
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07-31-2020 at 04:44 PM.
07-31-2020 at 04:44 PM.
Loan Cabin website rates just popped up to 2.125% in the last couple hours. It was 1.75% earlier. Did they a make mistake posting it? Did anyone actually get a quote for 1.75%?
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07-31-2020 at 04:49 PM.
I'm getting following LE from Loan Cabin. Is this good enough lock or should I wait for few more days the rates to go down?
2.25% for 400K (LTV 81%) loan with no cash out with lender credit-A-B = $1,500 (net credit towards closing) for 15 years in FL.
I didn't consider C, E, F, G in comparing the estimates because those are either services I can shop for or government tax/fees and prepaid. Am I correct in my understanding here?
Thanks
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I updated home recently. How should I come up with home value estimate?
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Quote from user017 :
I updated home recently. How should I come up with home value estimate?
Zillow will give you a ballpark.
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Zillow is 100k under Redfin. Can I go with Redfin?
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Quote from Danny_75 :
I'm getting following LE from Loan Cabin. Is this good enough lock or should I wait for few more days the rates to go down?
2.25% for 400K (LTV 81%) loan with no cash out with lender credit-A-B = $1,500 (net credit towards closing) for 15 years in FL.
I didn't consider C, E, F, G in comparing the estimates because those are either services I can shop for or government tax/fees and prepaid. Am I correct in my understanding here?
Thanks
I think F+G certainly shouldn't count. However, I usually want the lender credit to cover C and E so that the loan becomes truly zero cost. So, it kind of makes sense to keep it in mind, IMO.
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Quote from user017 :
Zillow is 100k under Redfin. Can I go with Redfin?
Just use the average of both. They may request an appraisal anyways.
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07-31-2020 at 08:17 PM.
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Quote from TPVPT :
Just use the average of both. They may request an appraisal anyways.

If you are worried about it then go ahead and say that its higher as its an "Estimate" and what you think the value is. With Covid its all over the place to be honest and its not a streamlined data as before or based on economic indicators.


Pros - will put you in a better pricing tier.
Con - if the value changes by a lot it automatically triggers an appraisal and hence not being able to waive the appraisal time and cost.


Shahhere
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@vfx,

Whether you received your LE document in email or on any portal?
I am also following up with Samantha, but she only let me knew on email that what is my offer. When I asked her to provide LE & go for lock, not getting a response.

Any insight whether Samantha will provide LE & whether she will lock the rate?
Loan Cabin I can honestly say is fair and transparent. If they quoted you through email and you advised to lock they will honor your rate. Myself and 7 others I referred are in process now. They are slower on LE but things start moving once you get your initial documents. They are real. The rates are real.
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Quote from VamsiK9983 :
Thank you for your response.Yep they are covering A,B & C.I saw loanCabin is offering 1.75%.Does anyone has contact details for LC
Loancabin.com and hit "get started"
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Quote from tedzo :
I think F+G certainly shouldn't count. However, I usually want the lender credit to cover C and E so that the loan becomes truly zero cost. So, it kind of makes sense to keep it in mind, IMO.
Below is a helpful article on loancabin.com site. They do not charge any lender fees and the other fees you can shop
For. See below link. Good luck.

https://www.loancabin.com/5-helpf...g-lenders/
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I have a question on a line item on the LE. What is the funds from borrower? My ABC is offset by lender credit but I can't figure out the for funds from borrower. I got the LE yesterday. The amount is greater than my current monthly payment
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