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Details on how to understand the Mortgage basics and information that I understand for your learning can be accessed on this post (Click this hyperlink to go to the post); If you are new to this process and have questions this is a Must Read before asking question on the forum!


Reviving my over a decade old thread from SD and FW as the rates have gotten competitive. This thread is a SD community thread to compare and post best rates received along with their lender experience for a quick compare and estimation from a starting point.


Please note that rates will vary on quite a few factors and just because one person has a rate will not guarantee you will receive the same rate but simply use this as a guide and negotiation tactic.

All below rates are based on assumptions of certain LTV, DTI, & Excellent Credit Scores:

30 Year Fixed best rates (Assuming Good Credit & 20% down, low LTV, low DTI, etc etc):
All listed lenders are here because I shopped them and have encountered competitive pricing and not because I get any sort of a kickback....use this as a gauge for the latest but note that things can change week to week, day to day and even hour to hour:

07/14/2021 2.875% Better.com- Will consider Lender Match to beat Competitors and combine with Amex cashback (Click here for additional Forum thread details). Amex's "Digital Assist" Team @ 800-297-7500

07/14/2021 2.875% LoanDepot.com - Is competitive but works better if you have another offer for them. My LO Luke Dean
[email protected] 949-652-4521

07/14/2021 BSMFunding (David Pressel) - Call to get the latest rates (no published online). Very competitive rates; get everything in writing via email!
https://bsmfunding.mymortgage-onl...essel.html
David Pressel (NMLS: 562175)- Branch Manager - Phone: 908-208-2036
[email protected]
07/14/2021 2.5% LoanCabin [loancabin.com] - Most Competitive but refinance times have grow to almost 6 months for many people so proceed with caution as recent reviews indicate normal 1 month closing. Generally do not charge for big Lender Fees (A+B on LE) as they are under $100 in most cases; esp if appraisal is waived for your scenario.

07/14/2021 3% LenderFi - Competitive but might be slow and not work on beating other lender rates.
30 Year Fixed Jumbo Best Rates (Assuming Good Credit & 20% down):
TBD
15 year Fixed:
07/14/2021 2.0 % Better.com; matches Bankrate rates for themselves.
07/04/2020 2.5% NIH Credit Union with Lender Credit
Title Company Comparisions:
RadianTitleDirect.com - OP has used them for almost a decade with getting best rates (closed after Covid, Lender must submit order as consumer side is closed).
ALTTitle.com
https://www.valerotitle.com/ - Texas only.
Alphabetical list of other lenders (some could be non-proven without direct member experiences posted here):
  1. AimLoan - Will provide LE without hard pull if credit is frozen https://www.aimloan.com/
  2. Amerisave - will give you scores from all 3 bureaus with just a soft pull https://www.amerisave.com/
  3. Better.com https://better.com/
  4. BoxHomeLoans https://www.boxhomeloans.com/
  5. Close Your Own Loan https://www.closeyourownloan.com/...sults.aspx
  6. Colonial Mort http://www.colonialmort.com/
  7. HighTechLending http://www.hightechlending.co/Default.aspx
  8. Interactive Mortgage https://interactivemortgage.com/ Eric from IM is super rude so good luck dealing with this guy!
  9. LenderFi https://www.lenderfi.com [lenderfi.com]if the link wont work try this backend link: https://app.lenderfi.com/app/sign...r/lenderfi
  10. Loan Cabin https://www.loancabin.com/
  11. Loan Depot https://www.loandepot.com/
  12. LoanLock https://www.loanlock.com/
  13. NavyFederal CU https://www.navyfederal.org/
  14. NIH credit union (Delware, District of Columbia, Maryland, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Virginia, West Virginia) https://www.nihfcu.org/
  15. Northpointe Bank https://www.northpointe.com/
  16. Owning.com (Operates only in CA) https://owning.com/
  17. Pentagon Federal CU https://www.penfed.org/
  18. Provident Funding - will give LE without locking rate https://www.provident.com/
  19. RatePlus (California) https://www.rateplus.com/
  20. Travis Credit Union (12 North Cal Counties only) https://www.traviscu.org/ Eligibility traviscu.org
  21. United wholesale mortgages https://www.uwm.com/
  22. Watermark Home Loans https://www.watermarkhomeloans.com/
  23. West Coast Mortgage Associates (The loan broker is in So.Cal. Debbie Morgan) https://wcmtg.com/


Shahhere

Old Thread - https://slickdeals.net/e/1223863-03-06-2009-best-mortgage-rates-from-big-reputable-lenders-30year-5-15year-5-arm-s-etc

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Quote from MeAPhool :
I think a lot of people get confused with regards to "no closing cost". Specifically I think that is with regards to A+B+C (as referenced in this post by volcomssj48 - https://slickdeals.net/forums/showpost.php?p=138543920&postcount=138)

As per volcomssj48, this is a good place to go for a basic understanding of the LE (Loan Estimate) that should be provided to you by each lender once you give all of your information: https://www.consumerfinance.gov/o...-estimate/

I'm in NJ so I can't really shop Title Insurance much as it's the cost is regulated by the state, however in other states, you can really cut down some of the costs in section "C".
Good site for daily mortgage news. Subscribe to their daily mortgage rate news to learn about their predictions. Also take a look at the rest of their site.
http://www.mortgagenewsdaily.com/...age_rates/



Potential Lenders - Mentioned in Thread
*Please add to this list and add locality if applicable*

  1. Loan Cabin https://www.loancabin.com/
  2. Better.com https://better.com/
  3. Interactive Mortgage https://interactivemortgage.com/
  4. LenderFi https://www.lenderfi.com/
  5. owning.com (Operates only in CA) https://owning.com/
  6. NIH credit union (Delware, District of Columbia, Maryland, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Virginia, West Virginia) https://www.nihfcu.org/
  7. Loan Depot https://www.loandepot.com/
  8. Travis Credit Union (12 North Cal Counties only) https://www.traviscu.org/ Eligibility [traviscu.org]
  9. Pentagon Federal CU https://www.penfed.org/
  10. Interactive Mortgage https://interactivemortgage.com/
  11. NavyFederal CU https://www.navyfederal.org/
  12. United wholesale mortgages https://www.uwm.com/
  13. BoxHomeLoans https://www.boxhomeloans.com/
  14. LoanLock https://www.loanlock.com/
  15. West Coast Mortgage Associates (The loan broker is in So.Cal. Debbie Morgan) https://wcmtg.com/
  16. RatePlus (California) https://www.rateplus.com/
  17. Northpointe Bank https://www.northpointe.com/
  18. HighTechLending https://hightechlending.mortgagewebcenter.com/
  19. Close Your Own Loan https://www.closeyourownloan.com/...sults.aspx
  20. AimLoan - will give LE without hard pull if credit is frozen https://www.aimloan.com/
  21. Amerisave - will give you scores from all 3 bureaus with just a soft pull
    https://www.amerisave.com/
  22. Provident - will give LE without locking rate https://www.provident.com/ Best Credit Back with 60% LTV or better.
  23. Watermark Home Loans https://www.watermarkhomeloans.com/ Skip these guys. They are being rude to Slickdealers. In one occasion they have explicitly said they don't want to do business with people from Slickdeals. They also have an approach where they give you the best rate initially and just raise it more each time you ask.
  24. Colonial Mort http://www.colonialmort.com/
  25. Annie Mac https://www.annie-mac.com/ Licensed in these states https://www.annie-mac.com/page/licensed-states/
  26. Rate Rabbit https://www.raterabbit.com/ Licensed in MA and others [raterabbit.com]

Discount lenders who DO NOT accept fully documented in tax returns self-employment income:
Owning.com
BoxHomeLoans
Lower.com

Discount Lenders that DO accept fully documented in tax returns self-employment income:
Sebonic
Caliber
Sage

Title Company Shopping
AltTitle.com
mytitlegenius.com (formerly entitle direct)
TO AVOID - Settlement LTD (local Pittsburgh run away from them - high cost, very bad service, lot of delays)


Feel Free to Add Sections for Each Lender - MeAPhool

Loan Cabin - DetailsWARNING. DO NOT GO WITH LOAN CABIN. TRUST ME.
I would have lost the home if i was trying to buy a house.
I just had a normal refi and it took then 127 days to close. out of the 27 emails i sent, they responded to 3. I even had to call (complain) their main office 2 times to get a response to any emails. they screwed the closing paperwork as well.


Loan Cabin does not charge lender fees. Actually all of this is in their FAQ but of course nobody reads anything and wants everything spoon fed.

This means A+B (reference the link above in the wiki regarding Loan Estimate) in the Loan Estimate should be 0 (as long as your appraisal is waived).

You will be responsible for Title Cost (of course you can shop that to your heart's delight)
You will be responsible for Recording Fee in your county
You will be responsible for Escrows (if you so choose OR if you are close to Homeowner's OR Property Tax payment - though you can negotiate and show evidence to get it waived. Most lender's will waive it if you are choosing not to escrow and you can show proof that you paid the upcoming Property Tax or Homeowner's Insurance)

You will be responsible for Prepaid Interest (this isn't a cost. If you didn't refinance, you'd be paying the interest at your current mortgage rate which I assume would be higher).

Lender Credit - If this covers A+B+C+E then you have a no-cost refinance. If you have a surplus aside from A+B+C+E, then technically you made money on your refinance.


If you apply and do no hear back for 3 days, then on the 3rd business day, reach out to [email protected]. They will usually help get a response on your application within a day.



If the information in this WIKI does not cover your questions, then please ask. We will answer and update WIKI accordingly.

Thanks - MeAPhool

Quote from arouncoumar :
For those needing clarity on LC closing costs, I was on the same boat. See what they charge here https://www.dropbox.com/s/r30ecea...t.png?dl=0
Quote from PeterLegend :
Here is a photo of my loan estimate from Loan Cabin, my lender credits should be closer to 3K based on my initial conversations with Bob so i'm following up with him on that.

I do see title insurance in my estimate. I reached out to Owning but I didn't quality for the no cost refinance option since my LTV was 73%, it has to be 50% or lower when I spoke to them.

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08-12-2020 at 05:22 PM.
08-12-2020 at 05:22 PM.
Quote from user017 :
How is my LE? Amount 700k LTV 70% at 2.625% in CA. Appraisal waived. Haven't heard from LC yet. CS 760+

A $1595
B $112
C $900
D = A+B+C $2607

Lender credit $3595
That's pretty good. Here's what I'm getting from Better after matching an LE from LC

761K 2.625% 30 year fixed, high balance conforming in Ca
A+B+C = $1464
Lender Credit = $2232 + $2500 AMEX credit
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08-12-2020 at 05:41 PM.
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Quote from MeAPhool :
Yes as stated by others, you can undo the entire loan within 3 days of closing. If I were you, I would go to another lender if you can get a better deal.

The other thing you can do is take Better's LE to Sebonic and ask them to beat it. If they want your business they will beat it, otherwise you have no reason to stay with Sebonic.
Okay, thanks, I'll see if better can get me a loan quote in writing so i can bring it to sebonic.
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08-12-2020 at 06:07 PM.
08-12-2020 at 06:07 PM.
Quote from vfx :
The fees in C. Are those the same fees when they sent your LE initially? Or they added on later when you close?
This LE is prior to lock. Technically, it should stay same till closing.
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08-12-2020 at 06:12 PM.
Quote from PaulW9311 :
I applied through them on 8/1 and sent an EMAIL to [email protected] and also haven't heard a word from them besides my initial welcome Email. My refinance was only 148K so I'm wondering if they are screening these apps and doing the ones that will make the most money for them first?
Yeah perhaps you're right.. as mine is only $160k. I should "accidentally" put in a larger amount say fat-finger 610K (dyslexia) and see if they respond sooner. Biggrin2
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08-12-2020 at 06:26 PM.
08-12-2020 at 06:26 PM.
This just hit the wire
http://www.mortgagenewsdaily.com/...51943.aspx

Quote :
The FHFA, Fannie and Freddie's regulator, is implementing a new price adjustment for all refinance transactions of 0.5% of the loan amount (i.e. $1500 on a $300k loan). This applies to loans delivered to Fannie/Freddie in September and thereafter, which is almost all of them that aren't already well underway.
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08-12-2020 at 06:42 PM.
08-12-2020 at 06:42 PM.
Quote from soobaerodude :
That's pretty good. Here's what I'm getting from Better after matching an LE from LC

761K 2.625% 30 year fixed, high balance conforming in Ca
A+B+C = $1464
Lender Credit = $2232 + $2500 AMEX credit
Yours is much better. Better wouldn't match at all for me.
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08-12-2020 at 06:44 PM.
08-12-2020 at 06:44 PM.
Quote from user017 :
This just hit the wire
http://www.mortgagenewsdaily.com/...51943.aspx

Money grab.

Shahhere
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08-12-2020 at 07:37 PM.
Quote from user017 :
This just hit the wire
http://www.mortgagenewsdaily.com/...51943.aspx
If this fee sticks, refinancing as we know it is dead. The refi rates tomorrow are probably going to jump up a quarter point if not more and this fee will create a permanent wedge between purchase and refi rates!

I wonder if this can/ will get challenged in courts? And might even get push back from the White House and other federal agencies.
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08-12-2020 at 08:38 PM.
Guys quick question.

I'm planning on refi 2X. My first refi is estimated to close 1 month from now. Today I locked with a 2nd vendor and I am expected to close 2 mo from today. This makes the gap between my 1st and 2nd refi.... a month. Can I pull this off? I am concerned b/c the 2nd refi vendor will ask for the payoff statement and it may be in a fuzzy spot and perhaps change hands to the 1st refi vendor during the process. I feel like something can go horribly wrong somewhere and am leaning towards advice from experts here. Thank you in advance.
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Quote from arouncoumar :
For those needing clarity on LC closing costs, I was on the same boat. See what they charge here https://www.dropbox.com/s/r30ecea...t.png?dl=0
Thanks for posting. Just to confirm Loan CabIn does not charge any fees. The only fees as attached are fees you will incur lender by lender. If you live in a condo you will receive a HOA FEE.

- Home owner association fee is only if your association charges this not the lender.
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08-12-2020 at 09:37 PM.
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Quote from soobaerodude :
That's pretty good. Here's what I'm getting from Better after matching an LE from LC

761K 2.625% 30 year fixed, high balance conforming in Ca
A+B+C = $1464
Lender Credit = $2232 + $2500 AMEX credit
Better is saying they cannot match the LE from LC since it doesn't have the "Date Issued" filled. Did you have this issue at all?
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08-12-2020 at 09:39 PM.
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Frustrated with Better!
I am getting close to closing with Better on my 2.75%, 20 year Loan with the $2500 AMEX Credit. I locked the rate on 7/18 for $229K loan amount with a house value $1.2M (19% LTV) in California.

The initial process was moving smoothly and I got the Loan Processor to beat a competing LE by $1000 after the lock. It seemed like I would close in about 2-3 weeks.

However, over the past 2 weeks, Better has had 3 issues with the title paperwork from their Title 365 company which slowed down the process.

Better finally received the approved Title today and they email me and said would look into providing some concessions for the delays with their Title company.

This afternoon I received an updated LE and it increased by over $300. The Title Costs by increased by $110 due to some new fee called "Title - Deed preparation" and the Recording Fees increased by $200.

Plus, the cash to close has increased from $869 at the start of the process to $2600 which seems crazy. The amount of the loan has not increased and I have continued to make my mortgage payments so the loan amount should decrease by about $1500.

Tonight, I sent them an email pointing to this article on the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau which states the fees cannot change since I have not had any "Change in Circumstances" and I asked them to explain the increase in costs.
https://www.consumerfinance.gov/a...te-en-172/

I will provide any update on Thursday after I receive a response from Better. I am hoping they will resolve the fee increase and provide some other discounts.
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Quote from ryansara007 :
Better is saying they cannot match the LE from LC since it doesn't have the "Date Issued" filled. Did you have this issue at all?
Yeah, the draft LE from LC was missing details. I had to lock with LC in order to generate disclosures and a proper LE.
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08-13-2020 at 04:56 AM.
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Scheduled to close in early Sept. Should I be worried?

http://www.mortgagenewsdaily.com/...51943.aspx
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Quote from nagraw4 :
If this fee sticks, refinancing as we know it is dead. The refi rates tomorrow are probably going to jump up a quarter point if not more and this fee will create a permanent wedge between purchase and refi rates!

I wonder if this can/ will get challenged in courts? And might even get push back from the White House and other federal agencies.
I think I was more dramatic in my assessment last night. I think it should translate about an 1/8th higher in refi rate. I might try to get a few quotes to get an idea. Please share what you guys are seeing. Thanks!
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