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Details on how to understand the Mortgage basics and information that I understand for your learning can be accessed on this post (Click this hyperlink to go to the post); If you are new to this process and have questions this is a Must Read before asking question on the forum!


Reviving my over a decade old thread from SD and FW as the rates have gotten competitive. This thread is a SD community thread to compare and post best rates received along with their lender experience for a quick compare and estimation from a starting point.


Please note that rates will vary on quite a few factors and just because one person has a rate will not guarantee you will receive the same rate but simply use this as a guide and negotiation tactic.

All below rates are based on assumptions of certain LTV, DTI, & Excellent Credit Scores:

30 Year Fixed best rates (Assuming Good Credit & 20% down, low LTV, low DTI, etc etc):
All listed lenders are here because I shopped them and have encountered competitive pricing and not because I get any sort of a kickback....use this as a gauge for the latest but note that things can change week to week, day to day and even hour to hour:

07/14/2021 2.875% Better.com- Will consider Lender Match to beat Competitors and combine with Amex cashback (Click here for additional Forum thread details). Amex's "Digital Assist" Team @ 800-297-7500

07/14/2021 2.875% LoanDepot.com - Is competitive but works better if you have another offer for them. My LO Luke Dean
[email protected] 949-652-4521

07/14/2021 BSMFunding (David Pressel) - Call to get the latest rates (no published online). Very competitive rates; get everything in writing via email!
https://bsmfunding.mymortgage-onl...essel.html
David Pressel (NMLS: 562175)- Branch Manager - Phone: 908-208-2036
[email protected]
07/14/2021 2.5% LoanCabin [loancabin.com] - Most Competitive but refinance times have grow to almost 6 months for many people so proceed with caution as recent reviews indicate normal 1 month closing. Generally do not charge for big Lender Fees (A+B on LE) as they are under $100 in most cases; esp if appraisal is waived for your scenario.

07/14/2021 3% LenderFi - Competitive but might be slow and not work on beating other lender rates.
30 Year Fixed Jumbo Best Rates (Assuming Good Credit & 20% down):
TBD
15 year Fixed:
07/14/2021 2.0 % Better.com; matches Bankrate rates for themselves.
07/04/2020 2.5% NIH Credit Union with Lender Credit
Title Company Comparisions:
RadianTitleDirect.com - OP has used them for almost a decade with getting best rates (closed after Covid, Lender must submit order as consumer side is closed).
ALTTitle.com
https://www.valerotitle.com/ - Texas only.
Alphabetical list of other lenders (some could be non-proven without direct member experiences posted here):
  1. AimLoan - Will provide LE without hard pull if credit is frozen https://www.aimloan.com/
  2. Amerisave - will give you scores from all 3 bureaus with just a soft pull https://www.amerisave.com/
  3. Better.com https://better.com/
  4. BoxHomeLoans https://www.boxhomeloans.com/
  5. Close Your Own Loan https://www.closeyourownloan.com/...sults.aspx
  6. Colonial Mort http://www.colonialmort.com/
  7. HighTechLending http://www.hightechlending.co/Default.aspx
  8. Interactive Mortgage https://interactivemortgage.com/ Eric from IM is super rude so good luck dealing with this guy!
  9. LenderFi https://www.lenderfi.com [lenderfi.com]if the link wont work try this backend link: https://app.lenderfi.com/app/sign...r/lenderfi
  10. Loan Cabin https://www.loancabin.com/
  11. Loan Depot https://www.loandepot.com/
  12. LoanLock https://www.loanlock.com/
  13. NavyFederal CU https://www.navyfederal.org/
  14. NIH credit union (Delware, District of Columbia, Maryland, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Virginia, West Virginia) https://www.nihfcu.org/
  15. Northpointe Bank https://www.northpointe.com/
  16. Owning.com (Operates only in CA) https://owning.com/
  17. Pentagon Federal CU https://www.penfed.org/
  18. Provident Funding - will give LE without locking rate https://www.provident.com/
  19. RatePlus (California) https://www.rateplus.com/
  20. Travis Credit Union (12 North Cal Counties only) https://www.traviscu.org/ Eligibility traviscu.org
  21. United wholesale mortgages https://www.uwm.com/
  22. Watermark Home Loans https://www.watermarkhomeloans.com/
  23. West Coast Mortgage Associates (The loan broker is in So.Cal. Debbie Morgan) https://wcmtg.com/


Shahhere

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Quote from MeAPhool :
I think a lot of people get confused with regards to "no closing cost". Specifically I think that is with regards to A+B+C (as referenced in this post by volcomssj48 - https://slickdeals.net/forums/showpost.php?p=138543920&postcount=138)

As per volcomssj48, this is a good place to go for a basic understanding of the LE (Loan Estimate) that should be provided to you by each lender once you give all of your information: https://www.consumerfinance.gov/o...-estimate/

I'm in NJ so I can't really shop Title Insurance much as it's the cost is regulated by the state, however in other states, you can really cut down some of the costs in section "C".
Good site for daily mortgage news. Subscribe to their daily mortgage rate news to learn about their predictions. Also take a look at the rest of their site.
http://www.mortgagenewsdaily.com/...age_rates/



Potential Lenders - Mentioned in Thread
*Please add to this list and add locality if applicable*

  1. Loan Cabin https://www.loancabin.com/
  2. Better.com https://better.com/
  3. Interactive Mortgage https://interactivemortgage.com/
  4. LenderFi https://www.lenderfi.com/
  5. owning.com (Operates only in CA) https://owning.com/
  6. NIH credit union (Delware, District of Columbia, Maryland, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Virginia, West Virginia) https://www.nihfcu.org/
  7. Loan Depot https://www.loandepot.com/
  8. Travis Credit Union (12 North Cal Counties only) https://www.traviscu.org/ Eligibility [traviscu.org]
  9. Pentagon Federal CU https://www.penfed.org/
  10. Interactive Mortgage https://interactivemortgage.com/
  11. NavyFederal CU https://www.navyfederal.org/
  12. United wholesale mortgages https://www.uwm.com/
  13. BoxHomeLoans https://www.boxhomeloans.com/
  14. LoanLock https://www.loanlock.com/
  15. West Coast Mortgage Associates (The loan broker is in So.Cal. Debbie Morgan) https://wcmtg.com/
  16. RatePlus (California) https://www.rateplus.com/
  17. Northpointe Bank https://www.northpointe.com/
  18. HighTechLending https://hightechlending.mortgagewebcenter.com/
  19. Close Your Own Loan https://www.closeyourownloan.com/...sults.aspx
  20. AimLoan - will give LE without hard pull if credit is frozen https://www.aimloan.com/
  21. Amerisave - will give you scores from all 3 bureaus with just a soft pull
    https://www.amerisave.com/
  22. Provident - will give LE without locking rate https://www.provident.com/ Best Credit Back with 60% LTV or better.
  23. Watermark Home Loans https://www.watermarkhomeloans.com/ Skip these guys. They are being rude to Slickdealers. In one occasion they have explicitly said they don't want to do business with people from Slickdeals. They also have an approach where they give you the best rate initially and just raise it more each time you ask.
  24. Colonial Mort http://www.colonialmort.com/
  25. Annie Mac https://www.annie-mac.com/ Licensed in these states https://www.annie-mac.com/page/licensed-states/
  26. Rate Rabbit https://www.raterabbit.com/ Licensed in MA and others [raterabbit.com]

Discount lenders who DO NOT accept fully documented in tax returns self-employment income:
Owning.com
BoxHomeLoans
Lower.com

Discount Lenders that DO accept fully documented in tax returns self-employment income:
Sebonic
Caliber
Sage

Title Company Shopping
AltTitle.com
mytitlegenius.com (formerly entitle direct)
TO AVOID - Settlement LTD (local Pittsburgh run away from them - high cost, very bad service, lot of delays)


Feel Free to Add Sections for Each Lender - MeAPhool

Loan Cabin - DetailsWARNING. DO NOT GO WITH LOAN CABIN. TRUST ME.
I would have lost the home if i was trying to buy a house.
I just had a normal refi and it took then 127 days to close. out of the 27 emails i sent, they responded to 3. I even had to call (complain) their main office 2 times to get a response to any emails. they screwed the closing paperwork as well.


Loan Cabin does not charge lender fees. Actually all of this is in their FAQ but of course nobody reads anything and wants everything spoon fed.

This means A+B (reference the link above in the wiki regarding Loan Estimate) in the Loan Estimate should be 0 (as long as your appraisal is waived).

You will be responsible for Title Cost (of course you can shop that to your heart's delight)
You will be responsible for Recording Fee in your county
You will be responsible for Escrows (if you so choose OR if you are close to Homeowner's OR Property Tax payment - though you can negotiate and show evidence to get it waived. Most lender's will waive it if you are choosing not to escrow and you can show proof that you paid the upcoming Property Tax or Homeowner's Insurance)

You will be responsible for Prepaid Interest (this isn't a cost. If you didn't refinance, you'd be paying the interest at your current mortgage rate which I assume would be higher).

Lender Credit - If this covers A+B+C+E then you have a no-cost refinance. If you have a surplus aside from A+B+C+E, then technically you made money on your refinance.


If you apply and do no hear back for 3 days, then on the 3rd business day, reach out to [email protected]. They will usually help get a response on your application within a day.



If the information in this WIKI does not cover your questions, then please ask. We will answer and update WIKI accordingly.

Thanks - MeAPhool

Quote from arouncoumar :
For those needing clarity on LC closing costs, I was on the same boat. See what they charge here https://www.dropbox.com/s/r30ecea...t.png?dl=0
Quote from PeterLegend :
Here is a photo of my loan estimate from Loan Cabin, my lender credits should be closer to 3K based on my initial conversations with Bob so i'm following up with him on that.

I do see title insurance in my estimate. I reached out to Owning but I didn't quality for the no cost refinance option since my LTV was 73%, it has to be 50% or lower when I spoke to them.

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09-12-2020 at 06:53 AM.
09-12-2020 at 06:53 AM.
Quote from Rocketmon :
Does having an Open Heloc negatively impact your rate or offer? Keep in mind its has ZERO balance and always has. If it speeds things up and/or requires less paperwork and/or any impact on fees or APR, I'll go ahead and close. On the flipside, if its cauess any issues closing while applying, I'll leave it as is.

When I refi'd with Better a few months ago they didn't care about it since I wasn't taking more cash. However, they took about 3 weeks to send the subordination paperwork to the HELOC bank who then took almost 30 days to process (even after several calls from Better & myself to them they said there was no was to expedite). If you worry about speed and don't need it I would go ahead and close, but I'm sure you'll need a proof of payoff which may take a while too if they want a lien release.
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MeAPhool
09-12-2020 at 07:09 AM.
09-12-2020 at 07:09 AM.
Quote from Rocketmon :
Does having an Open Heloc negatively impact your rate or offer? Keep in mind its has ZERO balance and always has. If it speeds things up and/or requires less paperwork and/or any impact on fees or APR, I'll go ahead and close. On the flipside, if its cauess any issues closing while applying, I'll leave it as is.
It's best to ask the lender.

However in general, yes, it would be more complicated to refinance with HELOC as there's more paperwork. From what I read in the 2nd link, there could be an additional subordination fee charged by the lender you are refinancing with.

https://www.erate.com/refinancing...loan-heloc

In addition, you would need to ask your credit union if they are willing to re-subordinate the HELOC.

https://www.consumerfinance.gov/ask-cfpb/does-a-heloc-affect-my-ability-to-refinance-my-first-mortga... [consumerfinance.gov]
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09-12-2020 at 07:29 AM.
09-12-2020 at 07:29 AM.
Quote from atamanah :
FWIW I have a price match offer from Quicken that they failed to beat LCs original LE and I should be getting a $250 gc from them for trying. Anyone have any experience with that?
I also received the $250 gift card offer in the mail. You need to give them your full info and have them do a hard pull. In my case, the first LO I spoke with asked verbally for what my competing offer was, told me he couldn't beat it, and hung up. So I had to call back and speak to another LO in order to go through the full process so I could qualify.

Once they fail to beat your other LE, you have to get a claim form from them. For me this was the hardest part. The LO tried transfer me to Client Relations, but I got transferred around a few times and had long hold times. When someone from Client Relations picked up, it was smooth sailing. They sent me the claim form.

After I closed with Better, I emailed back a filled out claim form along with the supporting documentation. I got an email confirmation and received the $250 gift card soon after that.
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09-12-2020 at 07:56 AM.
09-12-2020 at 07:56 AM.
Quote from michiganwolves50 :
Hello All,

I wanted to share my experience with Loan Cabin thus far. Any lender that has these good of rates will be busy right now, so as long as you are patient Loan Cabin will get you the best deal out there. I went to five lenders and they have the best rate with lowest cost. I have a

$405,000 loan amount with 10% equity in my home and this is a single family home.

30 Year Fixed - 2.25% with ZERO lender fees. ( I had an appraisal waiver so no fee. Only fee was title)

- I applied mid July 2020 ( longest wait was underwriting getting the loan approved )
- loan was was approved 9.2.2020 with barely any request from the loan originator
- Loan is clear to close and I am closing next week

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Awesome to hear. I am just now starting the process with LC, signed initial disclosures and submitting requested docs.

So it was around a 50-55 day closing for you?
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F1Racer
09-12-2020 at 08:07 AM.
09-12-2020 at 08:07 AM.
Quote from michiganwolves50 :
Hello All,

I wanted to share my experience with Loan Cabin thus far. Any lender that has these good of rates will be busy right now, so as long as you are patient Loan Cabin will get you the best deal out there. I went to five lenders and they have the best rate with lowest cost. I have a

$405,000 loan amount with 10% equity in my home and this is a single family home.

30 Year Fixed - 2.25% with ZERO lender fees. ( I had an appraisal waiver so no fee. Only fee was title)

- I applied mid July 2020 ( longest wait was underwriting getting the loan approved )
- loan was was approved 9.2.2020 with barely any request from the loan originator
- Loan is clear to close and I am closing next week

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Thanks for the feedback!

With the ¼ points better than any other posted closing here I am assuming you didn't care that there was no lender credit left to cover your titling costs ~/$1k?
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CocoJo
09-12-2020 at 09:22 AM.
09-12-2020 at 09:22 AM.
Quote from presto987 :
I also received the $250 gift card offer in the mail. You need to give them your full info and have them do a hard pull. In my case, the first LO I spoke with asked verbally for what my competing offer was, told me he couldn't beat it, and hung up. So I had to call back and speak to another LO in order to go through the full process so I could qualify.

Once they fail to beat your other LE, you have to get a claim form from them. For me this was the hardest part. The LO tried transfer me to Client Relations, but I got transferred around a few times and had long hold times. When someone from Client Relations picked up, it was smooth sailing. They sent me the claim form.

After I closed with Better, I emailed back a filled out claim form along with the supporting documentation. I got an email confirmation and received the $250 gift card soon after that.

Can everybody do this or is it an offer code / mailed offer?
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09-12-2020 at 09:22 AM.
09-12-2020 at 09:22 AM.
Quote from michiganwolves50 :
Hello All,

I wanted to share my experience with Loan Cabin thus far. Any lender that has these good of rates will be busy right now, so as long as you are patient Loan Cabin will get you the best deal out there. I went to five lenders and they have the best rate with lowest cost. I have a

$405,000 loan amount with 10% equity in my home and this is a single family home.

30 Year Fixed - 2.25% with ZERO lender fees. ( I had an appraisal waiver so no fee. Only fee was title)

- I applied mid July 2020 ( longest wait was underwriting getting the loan approved )
- loan was was approved 9.2.2020 with barely any request from the loan originator
- Loan is clear to close and I am closing next week

Wonderful Experience
Wow, that's an incredible rate. I'm also with Loan Cabin and hoping I can float down below 2.49% at no cost if the rates continue to drop into October when I'm scheduled to close.
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09-12-2020 at 09:28 AM.
09-12-2020 at 09:28 AM.
Quote from qAnon09102020 :
Thank you. Here's my timeline for other's reference:
9/1- Applied LC Online
9/9 - Emailed [email protected] in morning to ask for update
9/9 - Received Email stating " We are currently experiencing Higher than usual turn times and are reviewing all applications from 9.1.2020"
9/11 still nothing from LC since 9/9.

9/11 applied to BSM Dave's company at 9:08am PST

Here's my LC refi timeline:
8/26: Applied online; automated email reply "Due to current market conditions and high volume, a Loan Officer will be in touch with you within the next few days."
8/27: Called the general number from their website and left a message, no one called me back
8/31: Called the general number from their website; voicemail box was full
8/31: Emailed [email protected] to ask for an update; automated email reply "As of today, we are reviewing all refinance applications submitted on 07. 30. 2020"
9/8: Emailed [email protected] again to ask for an update; no response
9/11: Emailed [email protected] again to ask for an update; automated email reply "We are currently reviewing all applications submitted from 9-1-2020"
9/11: Emailed [email protected] asking if my application was skipped over since I applied on 8/26 and they are reviewing 9/1??? No reply yet
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soobaerodude
09-12-2020 at 09:34 AM.
09-12-2020 at 09:34 AM.
Quote from ktsnell :
Here's my LC refi timeline:
8/26: Applied online; automated email reply "Due to current market conditions and high volume, a Loan Officer will be in touch with you within the next few days."
8/27: Called the general number from their website and left a message, no one called me back
8/31: Called the general number from their website; voicemail box was full
8/31: Emailed [email protected] to ask for an update; automated email reply "As of today, we are reviewing all refinance applications submitted on 07. 30. 2020"
9/8: Emailed [email protected] again to ask for an update; no response
9/11: Emailed [email protected] again to ask for an update; automated email reply "We are currently reviewing all applications submitted from 9-1-2020"
9/11: Emailed [email protected] asking if my application was skipped over since I applied on 8/26 and they are reviewing 9/1??? No reply yet
Might take 3-4 weeks from application date till you hear from them
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09-12-2020 at 09:35 AM.
09-12-2020 at 09:35 AM.
Quote from Rocketmon :
Does having an Open Heloc negatively impact your rate or offer? Keep in mind its has ZERO balance and always has. If it speeds things up and/or requires less paperwork and/or any impact on fees or APR, I'll go ahead and close. On the flipside, if its cauess any issues closing while applying, I'll leave it as is.

And to add to what has already been said, some lenders just won't do a Refi if there's secondary financing (HELOC, financed solar panels, etc) as its more paperwork and draws out the timeline to close (due to subordination). Because of that, you may find it harder to get the best deal/rate shop.
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09-12-2020 at 10:12 AM.
09-12-2020 at 10:12 AM.
Quote from CocoJo :
Can everybody do this or is it an offer code / mailed offer?
I am not sure. I didn't have an offer code, but it was mailed to my address, so maybe the offer was tied to my address?
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09-12-2020 at 10:23 AM.
09-12-2020 at 10:23 AM.
Quote from presto987 :
I am not sure. I didn't have an offer code, but it was mailed to my address, so maybe the offer was tied to my address?

Thanks! No offer was mailed to my house but I'm going to try with them too.
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09-12-2020 at 10:59 AM.
09-12-2020 at 10:59 AM.
Do LC rates change on weekends?
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qAnon09102020
09-12-2020 at 11:50 AM.
09-12-2020 at 11:50 AM.
Quote from ktsnell :
Here's my LC refi timeline:
8/26: Applied online; automated email reply "Due to current market conditions and high volume, a Loan Officer will be in touch with you within the next few days."
8/27: Called the general number from their website and left a message, no one called me back
8/31: Called the general number from their website; voicemail box was full
8/31: Emailed [email protected] to ask for an update; automated email reply "As of today, we are reviewing all refinance applications submitted on 07. 30. 2020"
9/8: Emailed [email protected] again to ask for an update; no response
9/11: Emailed [email protected] again to ask for an update; automated email reply "We are currently reviewing all applications submitted from 9-1-2020"
9/11: Emailed [email protected] asking if my application was skipped over since I applied on 8/26 and they are reviewing 9/1??? No reply yet
Since you applied 4 days earlier than me, I'd expect you to hear back days before me.

I feel like we're back in the iPhone preorder frenzy Years ago waiting for our LC product.
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David9569
09-12-2020 at 12:59 PM.
09-12-2020 at 12:59 PM.
Better is taking forever to close my loan...closing in on the 60 day period. I'm looking at 75% on a 290K loan@ 2.625 with w/2300 credit (no orig fees) as well as the 2500 Amex offer.

Any suggestions on a place that might give me a better LE? This is off a match from Loan Cabin and then a bogus one from Caliber. My 60 day rate lock from Loan Cabin is about to expire so I could try them again, but I don't know if I'll hear back in time.

Loan Cabin is showing 2.375 w/ +850 fee for me... do you think that would equate to better than 2.625 with -2300?
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