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Details on how to understand the Mortgage basics and information that I understand for your learning can be accessed on this post (Click this hyperlink to go to the post); If you are new to this process and have questions this is a Must Read before asking question on the forum!


Reviving my over a decade old thread from SD and FW as the rates have gotten competitive. This thread is a SD community thread to compare and post best rates received along with their lender experience for a quick compare and estimation from a starting point.


Please note that rates will vary on quite a few factors and just because one person has a rate will not guarantee you will receive the same rate but simply use this as a guide and negotiation tactic.

All below rates are based on assumptions of certain LTV, DTI, & Excellent Credit Scores:

30 Year Fixed best rates (Assuming Good Credit & 20% down, low LTV, low DTI, etc etc):
All listed lenders are here because I shopped them and have encountered competitive pricing and not because I get any sort of a kickback....use this as a gauge for the latest but note that things can change week to week, day to day and even hour to hour:

07/14/2021 2.875% Better.com- Will consider Lender Match to beat Competitors and combine with Amex cashback (Click here for additional Forum thread details). Amex's "Digital Assist" Team @ 800-297-7500

07/14/2021 2.875% LoanDepot.com - Is competitive but works better if you have another offer for them. My LO Luke Dean
[email protected] 949-652-4521

07/14/2021 BSMFunding (David Pressel) - Call to get the latest rates (no published online). Very competitive rates; get everything in writing via email!
https://bsmfunding.mymortgage-onl...essel.html
David Pressel (NMLS: 562175)- Branch Manager - Phone: 908-208-2036
[email protected]
07/14/2021 2.5% LoanCabin [loancabin.com] - Most Competitive but refinance times have grow to almost 6 months for many people so proceed with caution as recent reviews indicate normal 1 month closing. Generally do not charge for big Lender Fees (A+B on LE) as they are under $100 in most cases; esp if appraisal is waived for your scenario.

07/14/2021 3% LenderFi - Competitive but might be slow and not work on beating other lender rates.
30 Year Fixed Jumbo Best Rates (Assuming Good Credit & 20% down):
TBD
15 year Fixed:
07/14/2021 2.0 % Better.com; matches Bankrate rates for themselves.
07/04/2020 2.5% NIH Credit Union with Lender Credit
Title Company Comparisions:
RadianTitleDirect.com - OP has used them for almost a decade with getting best rates (closed after Covid, Lender must submit order as consumer side is closed).
ALTTitle.com
https://www.valerotitle.com/ - Texas only.
Alphabetical list of other lenders (some could be non-proven without direct member experiences posted here):
  1. AimLoan - Will provide LE without hard pull if credit is frozen https://www.aimloan.com/
  2. Amerisave - will give you scores from all 3 bureaus with just a soft pull https://www.amerisave.com/
  3. Better.com https://better.com/
  4. BoxHomeLoans https://www.boxhomeloans.com/
  5. Close Your Own Loan https://www.closeyourownloan.com/...sults.aspx
  6. Colonial Mort http://www.colonialmort.com/
  7. HighTechLending http://www.hightechlending.co/Default.aspx
  8. Interactive Mortgage https://interactivemortgage.com/ Eric from IM is super rude so good luck dealing with this guy!
  9. LenderFi https://www.lenderfi.com [lenderfi.com]if the link wont work try this backend link: https://app.lenderfi.com/app/sign...r/lenderfi
  10. Loan Cabin https://www.loancabin.com/
  11. Loan Depot https://www.loandepot.com/
  12. LoanLock https://www.loanlock.com/
  13. NavyFederal CU https://www.navyfederal.org/
  14. NIH credit union (Delware, District of Columbia, Maryland, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Virginia, West Virginia) https://www.nihfcu.org/
  15. Northpointe Bank https://www.northpointe.com/
  16. Owning.com (Operates only in CA) https://owning.com/
  17. Pentagon Federal CU https://www.penfed.org/
  18. Provident Funding - will give LE without locking rate https://www.provident.com/
  19. RatePlus (California) https://www.rateplus.com/
  20. Travis Credit Union (12 North Cal Counties only) https://www.traviscu.org/ Eligibility traviscu.org
  21. United wholesale mortgages https://www.uwm.com/
  22. Watermark Home Loans https://www.watermarkhomeloans.com/
  23. West Coast Mortgage Associates (The loan broker is in So.Cal. Debbie Morgan) https://wcmtg.com/


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Quote from MeAPhool :
I think a lot of people get confused with regards to "no closing cost". Specifically I think that is with regards to A+B+C (as referenced in this post by volcomssj48 - https://slickdeals.net/forums/showpost.php?p=138543920&postcount=138)

As per volcomssj48, this is a good place to go for a basic understanding of the LE (Loan Estimate) that should be provided to you by each lender once you give all of your information: https://www.consumerfinance.gov/o...-estimate/

I'm in NJ so I can't really shop Title Insurance much as it's the cost is regulated by the state, however in other states, you can really cut down some of the costs in section "C".
Good site for daily mortgage news. Subscribe to their daily mortgage rate news to learn about their predictions. Also take a look at the rest of their site.
http://www.mortgagenewsdaily.com/...age_rates/



Potential Lenders - Mentioned in Thread
*Please add to this list and add locality if applicable*

  1. Loan Cabin https://www.loancabin.com/
  2. Better.com https://better.com/
  3. Interactive Mortgage https://interactivemortgage.com/
  4. LenderFi https://www.lenderfi.com/
  5. owning.com (Operates only in CA) https://owning.com/
  6. NIH credit union (Delware, District of Columbia, Maryland, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Virginia, West Virginia) https://www.nihfcu.org/
  7. Loan Depot https://www.loandepot.com/
  8. Travis Credit Union (12 North Cal Counties only) https://www.traviscu.org/ Eligibility [traviscu.org]
  9. Pentagon Federal CU https://www.penfed.org/
  10. Interactive Mortgage https://interactivemortgage.com/
  11. NavyFederal CU https://www.navyfederal.org/
  12. United wholesale mortgages https://www.uwm.com/
  13. BoxHomeLoans https://www.boxhomeloans.com/
  14. LoanLock https://www.loanlock.com/
  15. West Coast Mortgage Associates (The loan broker is in So.Cal. Debbie Morgan) https://wcmtg.com/
  16. RatePlus (California) https://www.rateplus.com/
  17. Northpointe Bank https://www.northpointe.com/
  18. HighTechLending https://hightechlending.mortgagewebcenter.com/
  19. Close Your Own Loan https://www.closeyourownloan.com/...sults.aspx
  20. AimLoan - will give LE without hard pull if credit is frozen https://www.aimloan.com/
  21. Amerisave - will give you scores from all 3 bureaus with just a soft pull
    https://www.amerisave.com/
  22. Provident - will give LE without locking rate https://www.provident.com/ Best Credit Back with 60% LTV or better.
  23. Watermark Home Loans https://www.watermarkhomeloans.com/ Skip these guys. They are being rude to Slickdealers. In one occasion they have explicitly said they don't want to do business with people from Slickdeals. They also have an approach where they give you the best rate initially and just raise it more each time you ask.
  24. Colonial Mort http://www.colonialmort.com/
  25. Annie Mac https://www.annie-mac.com/ Licensed in these states https://www.annie-mac.com/page/licensed-states/
  26. Rate Rabbit https://www.raterabbit.com/ Licensed in MA and others [raterabbit.com]

Discount lenders who DO NOT accept fully documented in tax returns self-employment income:
Owning.com
BoxHomeLoans
Lower.com

Discount Lenders that DO accept fully documented in tax returns self-employment income:
Sebonic
Caliber
Sage

Title Company Shopping
AltTitle.com
mytitlegenius.com (formerly entitle direct)
TO AVOID - Settlement LTD (local Pittsburgh run away from them - high cost, very bad service, lot of delays)


Feel Free to Add Sections for Each Lender - MeAPhool

Loan Cabin - DetailsWARNING. DO NOT GO WITH LOAN CABIN. TRUST ME.
I would have lost the home if i was trying to buy a house.
I just had a normal refi and it took then 127 days to close. out of the 27 emails i sent, they responded to 3. I even had to call (complain) their main office 2 times to get a response to any emails. they screwed the closing paperwork as well.


Loan Cabin does not charge lender fees. Actually all of this is in their FAQ but of course nobody reads anything and wants everything spoon fed.

This means A+B (reference the link above in the wiki regarding Loan Estimate) in the Loan Estimate should be 0 (as long as your appraisal is waived).

You will be responsible for Title Cost (of course you can shop that to your heart's delight)
You will be responsible for Recording Fee in your county
You will be responsible for Escrows (if you so choose OR if you are close to Homeowner's OR Property Tax payment - though you can negotiate and show evidence to get it waived. Most lender's will waive it if you are choosing not to escrow and you can show proof that you paid the upcoming Property Tax or Homeowner's Insurance)

You will be responsible for Prepaid Interest (this isn't a cost. If you didn't refinance, you'd be paying the interest at your current mortgage rate which I assume would be higher).

Lender Credit - If this covers A+B+C+E then you have a no-cost refinance. If you have a surplus aside from A+B+C+E, then technically you made money on your refinance.


If you apply and do no hear back for 3 days, then on the 3rd business day, reach out to [email protected]. They will usually help get a response on your application within a day.



If the information in this WIKI does not cover your questions, then please ask. We will answer and update WIKI accordingly.

Thanks - MeAPhool

Quote from arouncoumar :
For those needing clarity on LC closing costs, I was on the same boat. See what they charge here https://www.dropbox.com/s/r30ecea...t.png?dl=0
Quote from PeterLegend :
Here is a photo of my loan estimate from Loan Cabin, my lender credits should be closer to 3K based on my initial conversations with Bob so i'm following up with him on that.

I do see title insurance in my estimate. I reached out to Owning but I didn't quality for the no cost refinance option since my LTV was 73%, it has to be 50% or lower when I spoke to them.

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Quote from sd72986 :
Curious about the "until or near underwriting." Any reason they wouldn't match it after underwriting? Thx!
I don't have personal experience with this, but I had read that someone was able to get Better to match another LE shortly before closing.
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09-25-2020 at 10:01 PM.
Quote from pikappstrmchase :
Closed with Better a few weeks ago... had an all around great experience.

Got an email from my LO a few days ago indicating we would be receiving a refund for the 0.5% FHFA fee that has since been delayed. I was not expecting this at all and I am kind of speechless.

Updated numbers; 2.5% 30y 290K 65% LTV with a net of 1.2K in credits!
It's been a nightmare for me with better the people on my "team" are clueless and have no idea what they are doing when I try to ask them a question, I don't get a response or I get the wrong answer or I get them asking questions that I have already answered before. My rate lock expires in a few days and I just wasted almost two months with them for nothing to show for it.
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09-25-2020 at 10:32 PM.
09-25-2020 at 10:32 PM.
Has anyone work with GoMortgage ? Online reviews are positive. I have a good quote for 15 year refinance rate 2.125%, with A+B cost = $650 after lender credit. The appraisal is not waived. I am thinking to lock in the rate. LO said the mandatory industry fee will be added after Sunday.
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09-26-2020 at 01:26 AM.
09-26-2020 at 01:26 AM.
Quote from svtcobrastang :
It's been a nightmare for me with better the people on my "team" are clueless and have no idea what they are doing when I try to ask them a question, I don't get a response or I get the wrong answer or I get them asking questions that I have already answered before. My rate lock expires in a few days and I just wasted almost two months with them for nothing to show for it.
Sorry to hear that. The only hiccup I had was the closing agent went mia two days prior to closing. They were able to get someone else in time as to not delay things. I didn't have many questions for them.. maybe our situation was more straightforward?
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09-26-2020 at 01:49 AM.
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Quote from sd72986 :
Curious about the "until or near underwriting." Any reason they wouldn't match it after underwriting? Thx!
I could be wrong, but I didn't think you could alter the terms once it went to underwriting?
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09-26-2020 at 07:06 AM.
09-26-2020 at 07:06 AM.
Quote from pikappstrmchase :
I could be wrong, but I didn't think you could alter the terms once it went to underwriting?
I don't see why not either.

Better will match a competing LE after you've locked OR if its not more than 1 day old.

My experience with Better has been great so far. Ironically, I'm supposed to be closing right now but the notary didn't get the docs yet so we are delayed a bit.
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09-26-2020 at 07:26 AM.
09-26-2020 at 07:26 AM.
Has anyone else needed to re-upload more current financial documents (pay stubs/bank statements, etc) after waiting for 50 days to get into underwriting? Just twiddling my thumbs here and want to do anything to prepare and make sure things move along quickly..
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Wow... net 1.2k in credits at 2.5% that amazing. How did you pull that off?
I locked a 15yr, 2.25 with approx 1,500 out of pocket. I feel bad for me now
Do you mean out of pocket after A+B+C, or even A+B+C+E ?
I got 2.125% for the same 15yr but still have 650 after A+B. I found it difficult to even make A+B=0.
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Quote from pikappstrmchase :
Sorry to hear that. The only hiccup I had was the closing agent went mia two days prior to closing. They were able to get someone else in time as to not delay things. I didn't have many questions for them.. maybe our situation was more straightforward?

I have a 45 day lock. Will they honor and continue that deal for you or you pay for lock extension?
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I am not sure whether Ally price matches after locking.
They did for me, twice! The first time they beat a competitor's LE and later in the process they matched a different LE.
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Has anyone identified any common denominator for better.com returning the FHFA adverse market fee?

It seems to me the people who have received the email notifying them of a refund had smaller loans. Has anyone with a high-balance loan received notice of a refund?

For those who have or will receive a refund, when did you lock and close your loan? Before or after the fee was announced on Aug. 12?

My loan recently closed and funded, but I'm trying to figure out whether it is worth contacting my loan officer and closing expert to inquire about the refund.
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Can anyone suggest a good refinance lender for investment property second home?
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Quote from xman47 :
Has anyone identified any common denominator for better.com returning the FHFA adverse market fee?

It seems to me the people who have received the email notifying them of a refund had smaller loans. Has anyone with a high-balance loan received notice of a refund?

For those who have or will receive a refund, when did you lock and close your loan? Before or after the fee was announced on Aug. 12?

My loan recently closed and funded, but I'm trying to figure out whether it is worth contacting my loan officer and closing expert to inquire about the refund.
I assume the refund would apply to anyone who locked between when the fee was announced and when the fee was postponed. It shouldn't matter when you closed.
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09-26-2020 at 01:08 PM.
09-26-2020 at 01:08 PM.
Quote from presto987 :
I don't have personal experience with this, but I had read that someone was able to get Better to match another LE shortly before closing.
Quote from pikappstrmchase :
I could be wrong, but I didn't think you could alter the terms once it went to underwriting?
Quote from weigojmi :
I don't see why not either.

Better will match a competing LE after you've locked OR if its not more than 1 day old.

My experience with Better has been great so far. Ironically, I'm supposed to be closing right now but the notary didn't get the docs yet so we are delayed a bit.
Quote from xman47 :
They did for me, twice! The first time they beat a competitor's LE and later in the process they matched a different LE.

Honestly speaking this is more of an exception than the rule about getting better pricing AFTER locking. In the 13+ years its only this time that a lender like Better is willing to Price Match not only the credits but also the Rate% post lock and frankly multiple times through their own process all the way up to the closing (people have posted PMing the day the closing disclosures were drawn up). I know you noted Ally as well but they are essentially owned by the same investor group.



To be frank I would NOT assume this to be the case with other lenders and at best would assume that you'd only get a Float down if rates do improve significantly and/or a better Credit (in J) to be offered to you or maybe they reduce their fees in A/B at best.


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Quote from svtcobrastang :
It's been a nightmare for me with better the people on my "team" are clueless and have no idea what they are doing when I try to ask them a question, I don't get a response or I get the wrong answer or I get them asking questions that I have already answered before. My rate lock expires in a few days and I just wasted almost two months with them for nothing to show for it.
Quote from pikappstrmchase :
Sorry to hear that. The only hiccup I had was the closing agent went mia two days prior to closing. They were able to get someone else in time as to not delay things. I didn't have many questions for them.. maybe our situation was more straightforward?

I don't have a finger on things about this either as there are VAST variances in how people are coming out on the other end. I for one was able to refinance back to back with them and did have some underwriting scrutiny but they never materialized into anything. I obviously stay on top of things but even with that being able to close the second one in about 30 days was surprising.



Locking back at the same locked rate was the initial issue which I moved past as they reduced my own rate after I locked. They actually even moved me even lower to justify their internal underwriting team questioning if a 1/8 diff of only $15 was enough. I highly think this clearance is a matter of the Processor/Concierge team doing what they can to move the loan along and helping me out in the conversations I've had.


Once past the underwriting they suggested that i can go up the rate if I wanted to and that's what I did to maximize the credit. Ironically the agent was noted by others as being horrible but I couldn't agree to that including the closing expert who was noted to be notoriously bad but I had the opposite experience.





Quote from thedesi :
I have a 45 day lock. Will they honor and continue that deal for you or you pay for lock extension?

If the delay in closing was not your fault then they will simply extend the lock without charging you for it and even if they do you can always fight them for it. If the delay is from a titling stand point their policy is to then split the rate lock cost with with you and they pay the other half (or you only pay half). I ran into this and was told that I'll probably have to pay but never actually did and the rate lock extended by the closing team 2 times until the funds were successfully transferred/funded/wired.


What was the delay? Most likely they wont charge you based on the forum precedence.


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