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Details on how to understand the Mortgage basics and information that I understand for your learning can be accessed on this post (Click this hyperlink to go to the post); If you are new to this process and have questions this is a Must Read before asking question on the forum!


Reviving my over a decade old thread from SD and FW as the rates have gotten competitive. This thread is a SD community thread to compare and post best rates received along with their lender experience for a quick compare and estimation from a starting point.


Please note that rates will vary on quite a few factors and just because one person has a rate will not guarantee you will receive the same rate but simply use this as a guide and negotiation tactic.

All below rates are based on assumptions of certain LTV, DTI, & Excellent Credit Scores:

30 Year Fixed best rates (Assuming Good Credit & 20% down, low LTV, low DTI, etc etc):
All listed lenders are here because I shopped them and have encountered competitive pricing and not because I get any sort of a kickback....use this as a gauge for the latest but note that things can change week to week, day to day and even hour to hour:

07/14/2021 2.875% Better.com- Will consider Lender Match to beat Competitors and combine with Amex cashback (Click here for additional Forum thread details). Amex's "Digital Assist" Team @ 800-297-7500

07/14/2021 2.875% LoanDepot.com - Is competitive but works better if you have another offer for them. My LO Luke Dean
[email protected] 949-652-4521

07/14/2021 BSMFunding (David Pressel) - Call to get the latest rates (no published online). Very competitive rates; get everything in writing via email!
https://bsmfunding.mymortgage-onl...essel.html
David Pressel (NMLS: 562175)- Branch Manager - Phone: 908-208-2036
[email protected]
07/14/2021 2.5% LoanCabin [loancabin.com] - Most Competitive but refinance times have grow to almost 6 months for many people so proceed with caution as recent reviews indicate normal 1 month closing. Generally do not charge for big Lender Fees (A+B on LE) as they are under $100 in most cases; esp if appraisal is waived for your scenario.

07/14/2021 3% LenderFi - Competitive but might be slow and not work on beating other lender rates.
30 Year Fixed Jumbo Best Rates (Assuming Good Credit & 20% down):
TBD
15 year Fixed:
07/14/2021 2.0 % Better.com; matches Bankrate rates for themselves.
07/04/2020 2.5% NIH Credit Union with Lender Credit
Title Company Comparisions:
RadianTitleDirect.com - OP has used them for almost a decade with getting best rates (closed after Covid, Lender must submit order as consumer side is closed).
ALTTitle.com
https://www.valerotitle.com/ - Texas only.
Alphabetical list of other lenders (some could be non-proven without direct member experiences posted here):
  1. AimLoan - Will provide LE without hard pull if credit is frozen https://www.aimloan.com/
  2. Amerisave - will give you scores from all 3 bureaus with just a soft pull https://www.amerisave.com/
  3. Better.com https://better.com/
  4. BoxHomeLoans https://www.boxhomeloans.com/
  5. Close Your Own Loan https://www.closeyourownloan.com/...sults.aspx
  6. Colonial Mort http://www.colonialmort.com/
  7. HighTechLending http://www.hightechlending.co/Default.aspx
  8. Interactive Mortgage https://interactivemortgage.com/ Eric from IM is super rude so good luck dealing with this guy!
  9. LenderFi https://www.lenderfi.com [lenderfi.com]if the link wont work try this backend link: https://app.lenderfi.com/app/sign...r/lenderfi
  10. Loan Cabin https://www.loancabin.com/
  11. Loan Depot https://www.loandepot.com/
  12. LoanLock https://www.loanlock.com/
  13. NavyFederal CU https://www.navyfederal.org/
  14. NIH credit union (Delware, District of Columbia, Maryland, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Virginia, West Virginia) https://www.nihfcu.org/
  15. Northpointe Bank https://www.northpointe.com/
  16. Owning.com (Operates only in CA) https://owning.com/
  17. Pentagon Federal CU https://www.penfed.org/
  18. Provident Funding - will give LE without locking rate https://www.provident.com/
  19. RatePlus (California) https://www.rateplus.com/
  20. Travis Credit Union (12 North Cal Counties only) https://www.traviscu.org/ Eligibility traviscu.org
  21. United wholesale mortgages https://www.uwm.com/
  22. Watermark Home Loans https://www.watermarkhomeloans.com/
  23. West Coast Mortgage Associates (The loan broker is in So.Cal. Debbie Morgan) https://wcmtg.com/


Shahhere

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Quote from MeAPhool :
I think a lot of people get confused with regards to "no closing cost". Specifically I think that is with regards to A+B+C (as referenced in this post by volcomssj48 - https://slickdeals.net/forums/showpost.php?p=138543920&postcount=138)

As per volcomssj48, this is a good place to go for a basic understanding of the LE (Loan Estimate) that should be provided to you by each lender once you give all of your information: https://www.consumerfinance.gov/o...-estimate/

I'm in NJ so I can't really shop Title Insurance much as it's the cost is regulated by the state, however in other states, you can really cut down some of the costs in section "C".
Good site for daily mortgage news. Subscribe to their daily mortgage rate news to learn about their predictions. Also take a look at the rest of their site.
http://www.mortgagenewsdaily.com/...age_rates/



Potential Lenders - Mentioned in Thread
*Please add to this list and add locality if applicable*

  1. Loan Cabin https://www.loancabin.com/
  2. Better.com https://better.com/
  3. Interactive Mortgage https://interactivemortgage.com/
  4. LenderFi https://www.lenderfi.com/
  5. owning.com (Operates only in CA) https://owning.com/
  6. NIH credit union (Delware, District of Columbia, Maryland, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Virginia, West Virginia) https://www.nihfcu.org/
  7. Loan Depot https://www.loandepot.com/
  8. Travis Credit Union (12 North Cal Counties only) https://www.traviscu.org/ Eligibility [traviscu.org]
  9. Pentagon Federal CU https://www.penfed.org/
  10. Interactive Mortgage https://interactivemortgage.com/
  11. NavyFederal CU https://www.navyfederal.org/
  12. United wholesale mortgages https://www.uwm.com/
  13. BoxHomeLoans https://www.boxhomeloans.com/
  14. LoanLock https://www.loanlock.com/
  15. West Coast Mortgage Associates (The loan broker is in So.Cal. Debbie Morgan) https://wcmtg.com/
  16. RatePlus (California) https://www.rateplus.com/
  17. Northpointe Bank https://www.northpointe.com/
  18. HighTechLending https://hightechlending.mortgagewebcenter.com/
  19. Close Your Own Loan https://www.closeyourownloan.com/...sults.aspx
  20. AimLoan - will give LE without hard pull if credit is frozen https://www.aimloan.com/
  21. Amerisave - will give you scores from all 3 bureaus with just a soft pull
    https://www.amerisave.com/
  22. Provident - will give LE without locking rate https://www.provident.com/ Best Credit Back with 60% LTV or better.
  23. Watermark Home Loans https://www.watermarkhomeloans.com/ Skip these guys. They are being rude to Slickdealers. In one occasion they have explicitly said they don't want to do business with people from Slickdeals. They also have an approach where they give you the best rate initially and just raise it more each time you ask.
  24. Colonial Mort http://www.colonialmort.com/
  25. Annie Mac https://www.annie-mac.com/ Licensed in these states https://www.annie-mac.com/page/licensed-states/
  26. Rate Rabbit https://www.raterabbit.com/ Licensed in MA and others [raterabbit.com]

Discount lenders who DO NOT accept fully documented in tax returns self-employment income:
Owning.com
BoxHomeLoans
Lower.com

Discount Lenders that DO accept fully documented in tax returns self-employment income:
Sebonic
Caliber
Sage

Title Company Shopping
AltTitle.com
mytitlegenius.com (formerly entitle direct)
TO AVOID - Settlement LTD (local Pittsburgh run away from them - high cost, very bad service, lot of delays)


Feel Free to Add Sections for Each Lender - MeAPhool

Loan Cabin - DetailsWARNING. DO NOT GO WITH LOAN CABIN. TRUST ME.
I would have lost the home if i was trying to buy a house.
I just had a normal refi and it took then 127 days to close. out of the 27 emails i sent, they responded to 3. I even had to call (complain) their main office 2 times to get a response to any emails. they screwed the closing paperwork as well.


Loan Cabin does not charge lender fees. Actually all of this is in their FAQ but of course nobody reads anything and wants everything spoon fed.

This means A+B (reference the link above in the wiki regarding Loan Estimate) in the Loan Estimate should be 0 (as long as your appraisal is waived).

You will be responsible for Title Cost (of course you can shop that to your heart's delight)
You will be responsible for Recording Fee in your county
You will be responsible for Escrows (if you so choose OR if you are close to Homeowner's OR Property Tax payment - though you can negotiate and show evidence to get it waived. Most lender's will waive it if you are choosing not to escrow and you can show proof that you paid the upcoming Property Tax or Homeowner's Insurance)

You will be responsible for Prepaid Interest (this isn't a cost. If you didn't refinance, you'd be paying the interest at your current mortgage rate which I assume would be higher).

Lender Credit - If this covers A+B+C+E then you have a no-cost refinance. If you have a surplus aside from A+B+C+E, then technically you made money on your refinance.


If you apply and do no hear back for 3 days, then on the 3rd business day, reach out to [email protected]. They will usually help get a response on your application within a day.



If the information in this WIKI does not cover your questions, then please ask. We will answer and update WIKI accordingly.

Thanks - MeAPhool

Quote from arouncoumar :
For those needing clarity on LC closing costs, I was on the same boat. See what they charge here https://www.dropbox.com/s/r30ecea...t.png?dl=0
Quote from PeterLegend :
Here is a photo of my loan estimate from Loan Cabin, my lender credits should be closer to 3K based on my initial conversations with Bob so i'm following up with him on that.

I do see title insurance in my estimate. I reached out to Owning but I didn't quality for the no cost refinance option since my LTV was 73%, it has to be 50% or lower when I spoke to them.

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mamakat
10-13-2020 at 09:56 AM.
10-13-2020 at 09:56 AM.
Wow and I thought LC was lagging - I received a text and an email this morning from Watermark. I guess they're ready to quote my refi now, I sent them my info the first week of August.
Maybe they're trying to pick off people that are tired of waiting for LC. But I never received any response from Watermark until today.
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10-13-2020 at 09:58 AM.
10-13-2020 at 09:58 AM.
Quote from senthilcoumar :
Any comments on the attached LE from Congressional Bank?
Attachment 9462128
Attachment 9462131
Attachment 9462134
Looks pretty good deal, your credit covers A+B+C+ and Part of E.
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Wojofoo
10-13-2020 at 10:09 AM.
10-13-2020 at 10:09 AM.
Quote from levinthal2 :
I don't know why. But I had the same experience in my 2 refinances with Better. My property is also in MD. But it was corrected in the closing disclosure. Ultimately the title company calculates the exact amount of section E cost. I think they overestimates it because legally they cannot increase it later.
Was yours thousands off?

They are charging me ~$1450 when it should be $15-20
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levinthal2
10-13-2020 at 10:20 AM.
10-13-2020 at 10:20 AM.
Quote from Wojofoo :
Was yours thousands off?

They are charging me ~$1450 when it should be $15-20
In the loan estimate it was about $2400. In the initial CD, it was about $900. In the final CD, it was 0.
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10-13-2020 at 10:29 AM.
10-13-2020 at 10:29 AM.
Quote from levinthal2 :
In the loan estimate it was about $2400. In the initial CD, it was about $900. In the final CD, it was 0.
Wow, thanks, I'll move forward with the initial signing and just watch the closing one carefully.
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BMWZ8Bond
10-13-2020 at 11:20 AM.
10-13-2020 at 11:20 AM.
Quote from mamakat :
Wow and I thought LC was lagging - I received a text and an email this morning from Watermark. I guess they're ready to quote my refi now, I sent them my info the first week of August.
Maybe they're trying to pick off people that are tired of waiting for LC. But I never received any response from Watermark until today.
Came to post the same thing. I had been so long it took me a minute to figure out who it was calling. Said thanks, but I'm closing tomorrow.
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10-13-2020 at 11:26 AM.
10-13-2020 at 11:26 AM.
WaterMark finally got back to me after 3 months... Rates no longer competitive with what I got in August.
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10-13-2020 at 12:40 PM.
10-13-2020 at 12:40 PM.
Quote from random_shots :
I finally received an update from LC today. I received two automated messages stating my application had been "Sent to Processing" and "Loan Submitted to Underwriting"

I am glad I went with Better as they were able to beat LC and I am set to sign docs this Wednesday.
Quote from random_shots :
My Loan Cabin Experience

Applied on 07/23/2020, quote from Loan Cabin on 08/07/2020 after several follow ups, loan estimate issued on 08/10/2020.

2.50% 30 Year Fixed, No Escrow
Loan Costs (ABC) of $1,390 - Lender Credit of $2,500.00

Relevant Information:

Property Type: Condo
Location: So Cal
Loan Amount: $380K
LTV: 69%

I took that to Better on 08/11/2020 who ended up beating the quote by $100 and likely $650 if the appraisal is waived (most likely). I am going to go with Better given my previous excellent experience refinancing with them and lack of communication from Loan Cabin.
Wrapping up this data point:

- Locked rate with Better on 08/11/2020 after getting them to beat LoanCabin's pricing.
- Loan funded on 10/05/2020 with Better.
- 2.50% Fixed for 30 years with 1614 in loan costs (A+B+C) minus $2,924 in lender credits.
- Better did not waive the appraisal this time even though they did two months ago for me.

Closing took about 20 days longer this time around than the last time. Apparently there was an issue with title as my condo had a Unit Number when first built and now they wanted to add it to the official address for title purposes. Odd since it was never an issue when I purchased the place and the two previous refinances.

I am glad I went with Better as LoanCabin completely dropped the ball communication wise. I did not hear from LoanCabin until about a week before the 60 day lock rate was set to expire with an automated message stating my loan was in underwriting. Once I funded with Better I sent LoanCabin a message asking them to cancel my application.
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10-13-2020 at 01:14 PM.
10-13-2020 at 01:14 PM.
Quote from senthilcoumar :
Any comments on the attached LE from Congressional Bank?
Attachment 9462128
Attachment 9462131
Attachment 9462134
Looks like you're getting $344 back, which is very good like Shahhere said! The only thing I'd add is I personally asked my lender to not escrow my home insurance. This way if/when i switch my auto and home insurance, I won't need to asked someone else to make sure the payment goes to the right area. My property tax is in escrow, which i'm fine with.
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10-13-2020 at 01:15 PM.
10-13-2020 at 01:15 PM.
Quote from Wojofoo :
Has anyone had issues with Better not getting transfer taxes correct? They are trying to charge me the same amount for when I purchased my house in 2017 instead of taxing me on only the difference between the new mortgage and the remaining mortgage as per Maryland law.
I'm on the same boat with Better. I'm still waiting to see my closing disclosure with the corrected section E cost. Right now it's showing close to $400 when it should be around $150.
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10-13-2020 at 01:17 PM.
10-13-2020 at 01:17 PM.
Quote from mamakat :
Wow and I thought LC was lagging - I received a text and an email this morning from Watermark. I guess they're ready to quote my refi now, I sent them my info the first week of August.
Maybe they're trying to pick off people that are tired of waiting for LC. But I never received any response from Watermark until today.
Watermark just got back to me last Friday too after a month and a half. I sent them a LE from competitor, and they've gone MIA again since.
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CheapThrills01
10-13-2020 at 02:00 PM.
10-13-2020 at 02:00 PM.
Refinanced 5 months back for 2.875% for 20 years with closing cost $2400(D+E) before coming across this thread Frown

Now got quote for both 20 and 30 years same rate, and requested for LE to check on the cost.
2.5% with lender credit of $2000
2.625% with lender credit of $3900

Any advantage of doing 30 years now instead of 20? i don't mind on the low monthly as I feel I will be more disciplined with 20 years, is there any other advantage to go with 30 years as both are quoted with same rate and lender credit.
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10-13-2020 at 02:33 PM.
10-13-2020 at 02:33 PM.
Quote from CheapThrills01 :
Refinanced 5 months back for 2.875% for 20 years with closing cost $2400(D+E) before coming across this thread Frown

Now got quote for both 20 and 30 years same rate, and requested for LE to check on the cost.
2.5% with lender credit of $2000
2.625% with lender credit of $3900

Any advantage of doing 30 years now instead of 20? i don't mind on the low monthly as I feel I will be more disciplined with 20 years, is there any other advantage to go with 30 years as both are quoted with same rate and lender credit.
I bought in 2015, refi last year at 3.5%, and now am refi again down to 2.5% at 30 years. I have been investing the difference. I have another 20-30 years in time horizon before I reach my retirement, so I don't mind the longer term.

With any loan, the goal is to pay it off eventually. If the monthly payment doesn't matter to you, then ask yourself if the opportunity cost is worth it for you.
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scottman
10-13-2020 at 02:35 PM.
10-13-2020 at 02:35 PM.
Quote from CheapThrills01 :
Refinanced 5 months back for 2.875% for 20 years with closing cost $2400(D+E) before coming across this thread Frown

Now got quote for both 20 and 30 years same rate, and requested for LE to check on the cost.
2.5% with lender credit of $2000
2.625% with lender credit of $3900

Any advantage of doing 30 years now instead of 20? i don't mind on the low monthly as I feel I will be more disciplined with 20 years, is there any other advantage to go with 30 years as both are quoted with same rate and lender credit.
30 years with lower payment will lower your monthly debt to income ratio for any future loans you apply for. Or if your circumstances change for the worse, a lower monthly payment always helps. Grow some discipline and just make extra monthly principal payments to the 30 to make it a 20 if you are itching to pay off a 2.6% loan early. laugh out loud
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eversavage
10-13-2020 at 03:31 PM.
10-13-2020 at 03:31 PM.
Quote from random_shots :
Wrapping up this data point:

- Locked rate with Better on 08/11/2020 after getting them to beat LoanCabin's pricing.
- Loan funded on 10/05/2020 with Better.
- 2.50% Fixed for 30 years with 1614 in loan costs (A+B+C) minus $2,924 in lender credits.
- Better did not waive the appraisal this time even though they did two months ago for me.

Closing took about 20 days longer this time around than the last time. Apparently there was an issue with title as my condo had a Unit Number when first built and now they wanted to add it to the official address for title purposes. Odd since it was never an issue when I purchased the place and the two previous refinances.

I am glad I went with Better as LoanCabin completely dropped the ball communication wise. I did not hear from LoanCabin until about a week before the 60 day lock rate was set to expire with an automated message stating my loan was in underwriting. Once I funded with Better I sent LoanCabin a message asking them to cancel my application.

Dang.. 55 days to close? That seems like a long time...

I lock in on 9/12 with Better and I'm still in the process... I didn't think it would take that long

But with ur data point.. at least I now know what to expect
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