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Ever Start Universal 12-Volt Battery Checker with Indicator $4.88

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Our community has rated this post as helpful. If you agree, why not thank metlfan2003

You likely don't need this if you already own a multimeter. From what I can tell, this basically just measures voltage and gives a grade/value with LED lights vs. a traditional display.

The same can be achieved by using any multimeter capable of measuring DC voltage:
Car off - voltage at battery: <=11.5V (Low), 12V (50%), >=12.6V (Full)
Car running - voltage at battery: 13.2V-15.5V (Alternator OK), >15.5V (Over Voltage)
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Quote from metlfan2003 :
You likely don't need this if you already own a multimeter. From what I can tell, this basically just measures voltage and gives a grade/value with LED lights vs. a traditional display.

The same can be achieved by using any multimeter capable of measuring DC voltage:
Car off - voltage at battery: <=11.5V (Low), 12V (50%), >=12.6V (Full)
Car running - voltage at battery: 13.2V-15.5V (Alternator OK), >15.5V (Over Voltage)
I was thinking the multimeter is a lot more useful. If you want something more dedicated to the car, why not a cig-voltage indicator? It's inside your car and it tell you the voltage at the time kinda useless but nerd like me love it.

But anyway, when your car won't start it is likely the battery not having enough power to turn the engine. Especially when it's an old battery and the temperature is super cold. If it's the alternator than it's more dangerous, your car shut off when you are driving. Than all the "assist" stuff stop assisting and things become hard like the steering wheel and the brake. They still work, just it's no longer assist. I'm wondering if the current vehicles design to be too dependent on the "assist".
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sallocco
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To my knowledge, both the power steering and power brakes get their "extra power," NOT from electricity, but from their respective hydraulic systems: engine driven power steering hydraulic pump and hydraulic master brake cylinder.
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g725s
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This is a very rudimentary DC volt meter only. Better to get a multimeter.
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Quote from sallocco :
To my knowledge, both the power steering and power brakes get their "extra power," NOT from electricity, but from their respective hydraulic systems: engine driven power steering hydraulic pump and hydraulic master brake cylinder.
Traditionally that's true. But electric and hybrid vehicles have electrically powered brake and steering assist. And some conventional cars do now as well.
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Iono
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Quote from DiamondJim :
Traditionally that's true. But electric and hybrid vehicles have electrically powered brake and steering assist. And some conventional cars do now as well.
If your alternator is bad or failing, your car battery will drain and eventually you will suffer engine power issues - engine will go into limp mode and eventually as a result power assist things will go away. It may not necessarily be catastrophic at first, but things can change very quickly. Watch out for signs such battery indicator lights, power flickering.

Unfortunately the above happened to me while on a major expressway in Chicago. It was absolutely terrifying. It went from fine to engine cutting out in the matter for a few minutes. I had barely gotten enough time to get to an offramp to the side of a street.
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i remember aa a teen, delivering for a place called "chicken delight"
I was in the middle of delivery in the "hood" Car started smelling like rotten eggs anf the gauges/lights were going nuts (like I was being zapped by a UFO). Barely nade ut out of there and to a fas station.
good times
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Quote from metlfan2003 :
You likely don't need this if you already own a multimeter. From what I can tell, this basically just measures voltage and gives a grade/value with LED lights vs. a traditional display.

The same can be achieved by using any multimeter capable of measuring DC voltage:
Car off - voltage at battery: <=11.5V (Low), 12V (50%), >=12.6V (Full)
Car running - voltage at battery: 13.2V-15.5V (Alternator OK), >15.5V (Over Voltage)
While that was my initial thought as well however upon thinking about it I realize this would serve an entirely different market as it requires almost zero skill to use and only costs $5. Many people have no clue how to use a multimeter nor will ever learn plus even a semi-decent multimeter is many times more expensive.
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Quote from WooHoo2You :
While that was my initial thought as well however upon thinking about it I realize this would serve an entirely different market as it requires almost zero skill to use and only costs $5. Many people have no clue how to use a multimeter nor will ever learn plus even a semi-decent multimeter is many times more expensive.
Same people will not be troubleshooting their charging issues.
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For this price you can get the same led status, with charging capability from AliExpress with 1 month shipping.

https://i.imgur.io/kdMGYLV_d.webp
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Quote from metlfan2003 :
You likely don't need this if you already own a multimeter. From what I can tell, this basically just measures voltage and gives a grade/value with LED lights vs. a traditional display.

The same can be achieved by using any multimeter capable of measuring DC voltage:
Car off - voltage at battery: <=11.5V (Low), 12V (50%), >=12.6V (Full)
Car running - voltage at battery: 13.2V-15.5V (Alternator OK), >15.5V (Over Voltage)
I should send you the $5
Thanks for the info!
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Quote from yakky :
Same people will not be troubleshooting their charging issues.
A multimeter won't help you with that either. "Look ma, low voltage"...."what does that mean?" (said while holding a multimeter). Gotta ask, does a multimeter help change an alternator or magically diagnosis problems? Of course not, it is doing the exact same thing using a digital display as opposed to LED lights. Either way it is just measuring voltage, nothing more, nothing less. The fact that escapes you suggests said "troubleshooting" isn't related to owning a particular electrical meter Wink


Having an oven doesn't make you a chef and owning a microwave doesn't mean you aren't one.
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Quote from WooHoo2You :
A multimeter won't help you with that either. "Look ma, low voltage"...."what does that mean?" (said while holding a multimeter). Gotta ask, does a multimeter help change an alternator or magically diagnosis problems? Of course not, it is doing the exact same thing using a digital display as opposed to LED lights. Either way it is just measuring voltage, nothing more, nothing less. The fact that escapes you suggests said "troubleshooting" isn't related to owning a particular electrical meter Wink


Having an oven doesn't make you a chef and owning a microwave doesn't mean you aren't one.
Did you just post to be argumentative? What is your point? My point was a multimeter and 10 minutes on youtube will have you troubleshooting your charging system if you have half a brain.
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Quote from yakky :
Did you just post to be argumentative?
You mean like comparing a $100 multimeter to a $5 battery gauge then getting high and mighty when it comes to "troubleshooting charging issues?" Especially if both devices lead you to the exact same conclusion? This device literally gives you the same info as a multimeter BUT in ranges as opposed to exact measurements. If your multimeter says 13.1 volts there is no functional difference between that and this device rounding up to 13.2v. Or would you disagree?
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What is your point?
That the target audience for this is NOT the same group of people who would own and know how to use a multimeter. Or would you disagree?
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My point was a multimeter and 10 minutes on youtube will have you troubleshooting your charging system if you have half a brain.
The fact you think that 10 minutes is enough time to learn how to use a multimeter AND understand how a car's entire electrical system works is beyond amazing. If that is the case then mechanics wouldn't have jobs or this item wouldn't have been invented.

The problem with the Dunning-Kruger effect is those will "half a brain" don't know...what they don't know. Their lack of knowledge of a subject causes them to over simplify it.

"Look Mr. AutoZone employee, low voltage"..."that means my thingamajigger needs replacing according to youtube." An alternator, battery, and 3 hours later you still have low voltage because you didn't realize it was just corrosion on the battery cable or a rely that wouldn't 'open' causing a constant drain Wink

Just search "low voltage car battery" on youtube and see how many conflicting answers you can find in "10 minutes."

BTW, we wouldn't be here if you weren't being "argumentative"...you replied to me...remember?
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Quote from WooHoo2You :
You mean like comparing a $100 multimeter to a $5 battery gauge then getting high and mighty when it comes to "troubleshooting charging issues?" Especially if both devices lead you to the exact same conclusion? This device literally gives you the same info as a multimeter BUT in ranges as opposed to exact measurements. If your multimeter says 13.1 volts there is no functional difference between that and this device rounding up to 13.2v. Or would you disagree?

That the target audience for this is NOT the same group of people who would own and know how to use a multimeter. Or would you disagree?

The fact you think that 10 minutes is enough time to learn how to use a multimeter AND understand how a car's entire electrical system works is beyond amazing. If that is the case then mechanics wouldn't have jobs or this item wouldn't have been invented.

The problem with the Dunning-Kruger effect is those will "half a brain" don't know...what they don't know. Their lack of knowledge of a subject causes them to over simplify it.

"Look Mr. AutoZone employee, low voltage"..."that means my thingamajigger needs replacing according to youtube." An alternator, battery, and 3 hours later you still have low voltage because you didn't realize it was just corrosion on the battery cable or a rely that wouldn't 'open' causing a constant drain Wink

Just search "low voltage car battery" on youtube and see how many conflicting answers you can find in "10 minutes."

BTW, we wouldn't be here if you weren't being "argumentative"...you replied to me...remember?
You're ignoring the fact you can also use the $5 (on sale) Harbor Freight Multi meter for other things. You can also use it to find parasitic amp draw.

You know, everyone is capable of learning basic car mechanics despite your pompous illusions of yourself.

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