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Denon AVR-X6800H now cheaper than Lightning Deal at $2299 on Amazon (sold by Expo)!

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HIGH-PERFORMANCE AV RECEIVER - Enjoy 8K video and 3D audio via Denon AVR-X6800H AV Receiver. Get enveloped in sound with Dolby Atmos, DTS:X, IMAX Enhanced & Auro 3D, along with Dolby Surround, DTS Neural:X & Auro-Matic upmixer to optimize legacy content
ADVANCED 8K HDMI VIDEO SECTION - With the capability of up to 13.4 channel processing, this AVR supports 8K HDMI, and advanced video formats like Dolby Vision, HDR, HLG, HDR10+, and Dynamic HDR pass-through & 8K upscaling on all 7 inputs and 2/3 outputs
MULTI-DIMENSIONAL AUDIO - In addition to Dolby Atmos, DTS:X, and Auro 3D, the HDMI receiver also supports Dolby Atmos Height Virtualization Technology that creates virtual height effects without the height channels for a truly immersive experience
NEXT-GEN GAMING - Enjoy smooth, lag-free gaming with spectacular imaging, reduced frame tearing with 8K/60Hz pass-through, Variable Refresh Rate (VRR), Quick Frame Transport (QFT), and Auto Low Latency Mode (ALLM) supported by this Denon receiver
AWARD-WINNING GUIDE - An on-screen quick setup guide walks you through clear instructions to connect your TV, and Audyssey MultEQ XT32 & SubEQ HT accurately calibrates all speakers in your home setup and tunes the AVR for an optimal listening experience
WIRELESS STREAMING - Enjoy the same song in all rooms or a different one in each room with built-in HEOS multi-room streaming. Stream music from popular services via Wi-Fi / Bluetooth, and get ultra hi-res audio with proprietary AL32 processing technology
VERSATILE CONNECTION OPTIONS - 7 HDMI In / 3 Out, each input selection covers various audio sources and devices (Phono, USB, & more). HDMI Out with eARC simplifies TV audio, and Pre-outs for 2-channel amp, and four subwoofers ensure a flexible audio setup
YOUR HOME AT YOUR FINGERTIPS - The home theater receiver features Domotz Pro & OvrC remote system monitoring and management technology programs, allowing custom integrators to remotely monitor and troubleshoot connected devices, and control them

https://www.amazon.com/Denon-AVR-...-1-catcorr
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HIGH-PERFORMANCE AV RECEIVER - Enjoy 8K video and 3D audio via Denon AVR-X6800H AV Receiver. Get enveloped in sound with Dolby Atmos, DTS:X, IMAX Enhanced & Auro 3D, along with Dolby Surround, DTS Neural:X & Auro-Matic upmixer to optimize legacy content
ADVANCED 8K HDMI VIDEO SECTION - With the capability of up to 13.4 channel processing, this AVR supports 8K HDMI, and advanced video formats like Dolby Vision, HDR, HLG, HDR10+, and Dynamic HDR pass-through & 8K upscaling on all 7 inputs and 2/3 outputs
MULTI-DIMENSIONAL AUDIO - In addition to Dolby Atmos, DTS:X, and Auro 3D, the HDMI receiver also supports Dolby Atmos Height Virtualization Technology that creates virtual height effects without the height channels for a truly immersive experience
NEXT-GEN GAMING - Enjoy smooth, lag-free gaming with spectacular imaging, reduced frame tearing with 8K/60Hz pass-through, Variable Refresh Rate (VRR), Quick Frame Transport (QFT), and Auto Low Latency Mode (ALLM) supported by this Denon receiver
AWARD-WINNING GUIDE - An on-screen quick setup guide walks you through clear instructions to connect your TV, and Audyssey MultEQ XT32 & SubEQ HT accurately calibrates all speakers in your home setup and tunes the AVR for an optimal listening experience
WIRELESS STREAMING - Enjoy the same song in all rooms or a different one in each room with built-in HEOS multi-room streaming. Stream music from popular services via Wi-Fi / Bluetooth, and get ultra hi-res audio with proprietary AL32 processing technology
VERSATILE CONNECTION OPTIONS - 7 HDMI In / 3 Out, each input selection covers various audio sources and devices (Phono, USB, & more). HDMI Out with eARC simplifies TV audio, and Pre-outs for 2-channel amp, and four subwoofers ensure a flexible audio setup
YOUR HOME AT YOUR FINGERTIPS - The home theater receiver features Domotz Pro & OvrC remote system monitoring and management technology programs, allowing custom integrators to remotely monitor and troubleshoot connected devices, and control them

https://www.amazon.com/Denon-AVR-...-1-catcorr

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Electronics Expo is seller @ $2299. $2357 if you want to buy durectly from Amazon, so ~$143 less. $150 is not worth returning and re-buying for me.
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Quote from jmunjr :
Electronics Expo is seller @ $2299. $2357 if you want to buy durectly from Amazon, so ~$143 less. $150 is not worth returning and re-buying for me.
$150 will pay for a UMIK1+shipping.
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Quote from shaddai :
$150 will pay for a UMIK1+shipping.
I've done enough returns for a lifetime, costing retailers a ton. I also already have that mic.
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Quote from jmunjr :
Electronics Expo is seller @ $2299. $2357 if you want to buy durectly from Amazon, so ~$143 less. $150 is not worth returning and re-buying for me.
amazon was only $60 more. I did order this the other day and was 'tricked' by amazon. I ordered it as a prime deal though after my order somehow it was changed to a third party seller. I called to cancel before it was shipped and was told too late, and now amazon now refuses to honor the original price if I return my expo order.

I received the unit yesterday from expo and it was shipped to me already damaged. Three corners were crushed and the inner styrofoam was broken yet the outer shipping box was not damaged. plus the Denon box was filthy as if someone played football with it prior to shipping.
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Quote from shinseiRomeo :
amazon was only $60 more. I did order this the other day and was 'tricked' by amazon. I ordered it as a prime deal though after my order somehow it was changed to a third party seller. I called to cancel before it was shipped and was told too late, and now amazon now refuses to honor the original price if I return my expo order.

I received the unit yesterday from expo and it was shipped to me already damaged. Three corners were crushed and the inner styrofoam was broken yet the outer shipping box was not damaged. plus the Denon box was filthy as if someone played football with it prior to shipping.
Is Expo paying for return shipping?
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Quote from shinseiRomeo :
amazon was only $60 more. I did order this the other day and was 'tricked' by amazon. I ordered it as a prime deal though after my order somehow it was changed to a third party seller. I called to cancel before it was shipped and was told too late, and now amazon now refuses to honor the original price if I return my expo order.

I received the unit yesterday from expo and it was shipped to me already damaged. Three corners were crushed and the inner styrofoam was broken yet the outer shipping box was not damaged. plus the Denon box was filthy as if someone played football with it prior to shipping.
I don't believe Amazon changed your order from sold by Amazon to sold by a third party seller.
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I don't believe Amazon changed your order from sold by Amazon to sold by a third party seller.
Amazon may not have directly did it though that is what happened. I contacted the third party seller directly and they told me how it was done.

During prime day, electronics expo was manipulating their pricing every 10 minutes. Each time amazon changed the price, EE changed their price to be below amazon. That way EE ended up as the primary seller when you refreshed the page. I waited until the evening to order the unit and it dropped an extra $100 from morning to evening. The first listed seller consistently changed back and forth between amazon and electronics expo.

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Is Expo paying for return shipping?
Yes. They did offer to exchange the unit at their cost and sent a replacement with actual/proper packaging the second time. The unit arrived in great condition though I have not had time to set it up yet.
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Quote from shinseiRomeo :
Amazon may not have directly did it though that is what happened. I contacted the third party seller directly and they told me how it was done.

During prime day, electronics expo was manipulating their pricing every 10 minutes. Each time amazon changed the price, EE changed their price to be below amazon. That way EE ended up as the primary seller when you refreshed the page. I waited until the evening to order the unit and it dropped an extra $100 from morning to evening. The first listed seller consistently changed back and forth between amazon and electronics expo.
That's not "manipulating" the price. That's called using a repricer and trying to win the buy box. This is completely normal on the Amazon marketplace. EE was trying to win the "buy box" to get the sale (which they did). They had their repricer set to undercut Amazon's price. This is not rare, this is exactly how Amazon works.

When you purchased it, they were in the "buy box". I have done millions of transactions on Amazon as a seller, what you described did not happen. You simply made the mistake of purchasing the item from a 3rd party seller and not Amazon. There was no trick, Amazon didn't change the order from Sold by Amazon, to Sold by EE after the sale. I just want you to understand how Amazon works, so you don't make the same mistake again.
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Quote from Fenix33 :
That's not "manipulating" the price. That's called using a repricer and trying to win the buy box. This is completely normal on the Amazon marketplace. EE was trying to win the "buy box" to get the sale (which they did). They had their repricer set to undercut Amazon's price. This is not rare, this is exactly how Amazon works.

When you purchased it, they were in the "buy box". I have done millions of transactions on Amazon as a seller, what you described did not happen. You simply made the mistake of purchasing the item from a 3rd party seller and not Amazon. There was no trick, Amazon didn't change the order from Sold by Amazon, to Sold by EE after the sale. I just want you to understand how Amazon works, so you don't make the same mistake again.
I understand how it works, very much so.

I called EE during the sale and questions why the pricing was changing every 10 minutes. They specifically told me they were doing this to be on the top of search results. I finally decided to make a purchase when it hit a price I wanted to spend, like the stock market. I was on the product page and hitting f5. Originally it did say sold by amazon. Granted I did check out quickly, though I absolutely admit I could have skimmed over the 'review cart' page checked out quick.

Constantly changing a price throughout a day is manipulation, no matter the intention.
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Quote from shinseiRomeo :
I understand how it works, very much so.

I called EE during the sale and questions why the pricing was changing every 10 minutes. They specifically told me they were doing this to be on the top of search results. I finally decided to make a purchase when it hit a price I wanted to spend, like the stock market. I was on the product page and hitting f5. Originally it did say sold by amazon. Granted I did check out quickly, though I absolutely admit I could have skimmed over the 'review cart' page checked out quick.

Constantly changing a price throughout a day is manipulation, no matter the intention.
It's not manipulation at all, it's being competitive. If my company wants to get sales, we have to be in the buy box. For the most part, the only way you get the buy box is having the lowest price. If my competitor decides to lower the price by a few dollars to get in the buy box they'd get all the sales. So my repricing software matches them within minutes, so they can't win all the sales.

Some sellers may have a repricer setting active to undercut prices (which sounds like that's what EE was doing in this example), so their software will lower their price every time someone matches them. That's just how it works. Nothing is manipulative about it, just trying to "win" the buy box, which leads to most of the sales. There's many reasons sellers do this.

When you hit Add to Cart, EE was in the buy box at that moment, and I'm certain it was displayed on the page. Nothing changed from when you hit Add to Cart. You just missed that it wasn't Amazon in the buy box when you decided to make the purchase.
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Quote from Fenix33 :
It's not manipulation at all, it's being competitive. If my company wants to get sales, we have to be in the buy box. For the most part, the only way you get the buy box is having the lowest price. If my competitor decides to lower the price by a few dollars to get in the buy box they'd get all the sales. So my repricing software matches them within minutes, so they can't win all the sales.Some sellers may have a repricer setting active to undercut prices (which sounds like that's what EE was doing in this example), so their software will lower their price every time someone matches them. That's just how it works. Nothing is manipulative about it, just trying to "win" the buy box, which leads to most of the sales. There's many reasons sellers do this.When you hit Add to Cart, EE was in the buy box at that moment, and I'm certain it was displayed on the page. Nothing changed from when you hit Add to Cart. You just missed that it wasn't Amazon in the buy box when you decided to make the purchase.
I know you are correct in what you are saying. I still believe it is manipulation and fraudulent.
i miss the old days when stores and websites sold their own products. I don't believe any third party seller should exist through official channels. Amazon sells amazon, Walmart sells Walmart, etc.
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Quote from shinseiRomeo :
I know you are correct in what you are saying. I still believe it is manipulation and fraudulent.
i miss the old days when stores and websites sold their own products. I don't believe any third party seller should exist through official channels. Amazon sells amazon, Walmart sells Walmart, etc.
Are you saying you don't even think Amazon should exist? Because they are a reseller too. Competition leads to better prices, innovation, etc. Surely you don't want Amazon & Walmart to be the only companies selling products online, you'd rarely see deal, and hardly a slick one.

Here's an example: say my company bought a LOT of Denon receivers to sell. They didn't sell well, and the new model is coming out and it's going to lead to a drop in value on the current model. I lower my price to try to sell through my inventory before I take a big hit, now all the other sellers on Amazon aren't going to get sales while I'm in the buy box for having the best price. They're likely not just going to sit there and let this happen, so they match my price. Again my software will undercut them because I'm trying to sell my inventory as quick as possible. This is good for the customer, they're getting lowering prices. The only issue is perhaps if I'm not an authorized Denon reseller. But Amazon is very clear who the seller is, and who's fulfilling the order. So unless a buyer isn't paying attention, it's very transparent.

What are you most concerned about?

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