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Details on how to understand the Mortgage basics and information that I understand for your learning can be accessed on this post (Click this hyperlink to go to the post); If you are new to this process and have questions this is a Must Read before asking question on the forum!


Reviving my over a decade old thread from SD and FW as the rates have gotten competitive. This thread is a SD community thread to compare and post best rates received along with their lender experience for a quick compare and estimation from a starting point.


Please note that rates will vary on quite a few factors and just because one person has a rate will not guarantee you will receive the same rate but simply use this as a guide and negotiation tactic.

All below rates are based on assumptions of certain LTV, DTI, & Excellent Credit Scores:

30 Year Fixed best rates (Assuming Good Credit & 20% down, low LTV, low DTI, etc etc):
All listed lenders are here because I shopped them and have encountered competitive pricing and not because I get any sort of a kickback....use this as a gauge for the latest but note that things can change week to week, day to day and even hour to hour:

07/14/2021 2.875% Better.com- Will consider Lender Match to beat Competitors and combine with Amex cashback (Click here for additional Forum thread details). Amex's "Digital Assist" Team @ 800-297-7500

07/14/2021 2.875% LoanDepot.com - Is competitive but works better if you have another offer for them. My LO Luke Dean
[email protected] 949-652-4521

07/14/2021 BSMFunding (David Pressel) - Call to get the latest rates (no published online). Very competitive rates; get everything in writing via email!
https://bsmfunding.mymortgage-onl...essel.html
David Pressel (NMLS: 562175)- Branch Manager - Phone: 908-208-2036
[email protected]
07/14/2021 2.5% LoanCabin [loancabin.com] - Most Competitive but refinance times have grow to almost 6 months for many people so proceed with caution as recent reviews indicate normal 1 month closing. Generally do not charge for big Lender Fees (A+B on LE) as they are under $100 in most cases; esp if appraisal is waived for your scenario.

07/14/2021 3% LenderFi - Competitive but might be slow and not work on beating other lender rates.
30 Year Fixed Jumbo Best Rates (Assuming Good Credit & 20% down):
TBD
15 year Fixed:
07/14/2021 2.0 % Better.com; matches Bankrate rates for themselves.
07/04/2020 2.5% NIH Credit Union with Lender Credit
Title Company Comparisions:
RadianTitleDirect.com - OP has used them for almost a decade with getting best rates (closed after Covid, Lender must submit order as consumer side is closed).
ALTTitle.com
https://www.valerotitle.com/ - Texas only.
Alphabetical list of other lenders (some could be non-proven without direct member experiences posted here):
  1. AimLoan - Will provide LE without hard pull if credit is frozen https://www.aimloan.com/
  2. Amerisave - will give you scores from all 3 bureaus with just a soft pull https://www.amerisave.com/
  3. Better.com https://better.com/
  4. BoxHomeLoans https://www.boxhomeloans.com/
  5. Close Your Own Loan https://www.closeyourownloan.com/...sults.aspx
  6. Colonial Mort http://www.colonialmort.com/
  7. HighTechLending http://www.hightechlending.co/Default.aspx
  8. Interactive Mortgage https://interactivemortgage.com/ Eric from IM is super rude so good luck dealing with this guy!
  9. LenderFi https://www.lenderfi.com [lenderfi.com]if the link wont work try this backend link: https://app.lenderfi.com/app/sign...r/lenderfi
  10. Loan Cabin https://www.loancabin.com/
  11. Loan Depot https://www.loandepot.com/
  12. LoanLock https://www.loanlock.com/
  13. NavyFederal CU https://www.navyfederal.org/
  14. NIH credit union (Delware, District of Columbia, Maryland, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Virginia, West Virginia) https://www.nihfcu.org/
  15. Northpointe Bank https://www.northpointe.com/
  16. Owning.com (Operates only in CA) https://owning.com/
  17. Pentagon Federal CU https://www.penfed.org/
  18. Provident Funding - will give LE without locking rate https://www.provident.com/
  19. RatePlus (California) https://www.rateplus.com/
  20. Travis Credit Union (12 North Cal Counties only) https://www.traviscu.org/ Eligibility traviscu.org
  21. United wholesale mortgages https://www.uwm.com/
  22. Watermark Home Loans https://www.watermarkhomeloans.com/
  23. West Coast Mortgage Associates (The loan broker is in So.Cal. Debbie Morgan) https://wcmtg.com/


Shahhere

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Quote from MeAPhool :
I think a lot of people get confused with regards to "no closing cost". Specifically I think that is with regards to A+B+C (as referenced in this post by volcomssj48 - https://slickdeals.net/forums/showpost.php?p=138543920&postcount=138)

As per volcomssj48, this is a good place to go for a basic understanding of the LE (Loan Estimate) that should be provided to you by each lender once you give all of your information: https://www.consumerfinance.gov/o...-estimate/

I'm in NJ so I can't really shop Title Insurance much as it's the cost is regulated by the state, however in other states, you can really cut down some of the costs in section "C".
Good site for daily mortgage news. Subscribe to their daily mortgage rate news to learn about their predictions. Also take a look at the rest of their site.
http://www.mortgagenewsdaily.com/...age_rates/



Potential Lenders - Mentioned in Thread
*Please add to this list and add locality if applicable*

  1. Loan Cabin https://www.loancabin.com/
  2. Better.com https://better.com/
  3. Interactive Mortgage https://interactivemortgage.com/
  4. LenderFi https://www.lenderfi.com/
  5. owning.com (Operates only in CA) https://owning.com/
  6. NIH credit union (Delware, District of Columbia, Maryland, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Virginia, West Virginia) https://www.nihfcu.org/
  7. Loan Depot https://www.loandepot.com/
  8. Travis Credit Union (12 North Cal Counties only) https://www.traviscu.org/ Eligibility [traviscu.org]
  9. Pentagon Federal CU https://www.penfed.org/
  10. Interactive Mortgage https://interactivemortgage.com/
  11. NavyFederal CU https://www.navyfederal.org/
  12. United wholesale mortgages https://www.uwm.com/
  13. BoxHomeLoans https://www.boxhomeloans.com/
  14. LoanLock https://www.loanlock.com/
  15. West Coast Mortgage Associates (The loan broker is in So.Cal. Debbie Morgan) https://wcmtg.com/
  16. RatePlus (California) https://www.rateplus.com/
  17. Northpointe Bank https://www.northpointe.com/
  18. HighTechLending https://hightechlending.mortgagewebcenter.com/
  19. Close Your Own Loan https://www.closeyourownloan.com/...sults.aspx
  20. AimLoan - will give LE without hard pull if credit is frozen https://www.aimloan.com/
  21. Amerisave - will give you scores from all 3 bureaus with just a soft pull
    https://www.amerisave.com/
  22. Provident - will give LE without locking rate https://www.provident.com/ Best Credit Back with 60% LTV or better.
  23. Watermark Home Loans https://www.watermarkhomeloans.com/ Skip these guys. They are being rude to Slickdealers. In one occasion they have explicitly said they don't want to do business with people from Slickdeals. They also have an approach where they give you the best rate initially and just raise it more each time you ask.
  24. Colonial Mort http://www.colonialmort.com/
  25. Annie Mac https://www.annie-mac.com/ Licensed in these states https://www.annie-mac.com/page/licensed-states/
  26. Rate Rabbit https://www.raterabbit.com/ Licensed in MA and others [raterabbit.com]

Discount lenders who DO NOT accept fully documented in tax returns self-employment income:
Owning.com
BoxHomeLoans
Lower.com

Discount Lenders that DO accept fully documented in tax returns self-employment income:
Sebonic
Caliber
Sage

Title Company Shopping
AltTitle.com
mytitlegenius.com (formerly entitle direct)
TO AVOID - Settlement LTD (local Pittsburgh run away from them - high cost, very bad service, lot of delays)


Feel Free to Add Sections for Each Lender - MeAPhool

Loan Cabin - DetailsWARNING. DO NOT GO WITH LOAN CABIN. TRUST ME.
I would have lost the home if i was trying to buy a house.
I just had a normal refi and it took then 127 days to close. out of the 27 emails i sent, they responded to 3. I even had to call (complain) their main office 2 times to get a response to any emails. they screwed the closing paperwork as well.


Loan Cabin does not charge lender fees. Actually all of this is in their FAQ but of course nobody reads anything and wants everything spoon fed.

This means A+B (reference the link above in the wiki regarding Loan Estimate) in the Loan Estimate should be 0 (as long as your appraisal is waived).

You will be responsible for Title Cost (of course you can shop that to your heart's delight)
You will be responsible for Recording Fee in your county
You will be responsible for Escrows (if you so choose OR if you are close to Homeowner's OR Property Tax payment - though you can negotiate and show evidence to get it waived. Most lender's will waive it if you are choosing not to escrow and you can show proof that you paid the upcoming Property Tax or Homeowner's Insurance)

You will be responsible for Prepaid Interest (this isn't a cost. If you didn't refinance, you'd be paying the interest at your current mortgage rate which I assume would be higher).

Lender Credit - If this covers A+B+C+E then you have a no-cost refinance. If you have a surplus aside from A+B+C+E, then technically you made money on your refinance.


If you apply and do no hear back for 3 days, then on the 3rd business day, reach out to [email protected]. They will usually help get a response on your application within a day.



If the information in this WIKI does not cover your questions, then please ask. We will answer and update WIKI accordingly.

Thanks - MeAPhool

Quote from arouncoumar :
For those needing clarity on LC closing costs, I was on the same boat. See what they charge here https://www.dropbox.com/s/r30ecea...t.png?dl=0
Quote from PeterLegend :
Here is a photo of my loan estimate from Loan Cabin, my lender credits should be closer to 3K based on my initial conversations with Bob so i'm following up with him on that.

I do see title insurance in my estimate. I reached out to Owning but I didn't quality for the no cost refinance option since my LTV was 73%, it has to be 50% or lower when I spoke to them.

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PaulW9311
07-31-2020 at 08:51 AM.
07-31-2020 at 08:51 AM.
Is there any way to get rates from Loan Cabin without going through the entire loan application process or is this pretty much the new normal now?

Thanks
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07-31-2020 at 09:00 AM.
07-31-2020 at 09:00 AM.
Quote from PaulW9311 :
Is there any way to get rates from Loan Cabin without going through the entire loan application process or is this pretty much the new normal now?

Thanks
Their website only shows the best rate you can get but nothing else. You have to apply and follow-up with them to get rates for you. I have received rate in email but not an official LE yet.
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07-31-2020 at 09:00 AM.
07-31-2020 at 09:00 AM.
Quote from PaulW9311 :
Is there any way to get rates from Loan Cabin without going through the entire loan application process or is this pretty much the new normal now?

Thanks
Rates are on their front page. Just update the options with your particulars.
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MILDEC
07-31-2020 at 09:01 AM.
07-31-2020 at 09:01 AM.
Quote from MeAPhool :
MILDEC - I would take nicemann's advice ( I quoted his response ).

United Wholesale Mortgage appears to be giving great rates, but you have to go through a broker. Use that search tool to find a broker near you who works with United Wholesale Mortgage.
Hi MeAPhool,

But this may have nothing to do with United Wholesale Mortgage.

This is their advertised retail rate.

Check it out:

https://www.loancabin.com/rates/


...and I really really want it... but can't have it.

Again.... Mad
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MeAPhool
07-31-2020 at 09:12 AM.
07-31-2020 at 09:12 AM.
Quote from MILDEC :
Hi MeAPhool,

But this may have nothing to do with United Wholesale Mortgage.

This is their advertised retail rate.

Check it out:

https://www.loancabin.com/rates/


...and I really really want it... but can't have it.

Again.... Mad
I understand. No other lender is showing that rate up front. But if you read the article I quoted from tedzo, United Wholesale was offering 1.875% and that was the other day. Today the rates improved so they might be offering 1.75% as well but you need to go through a broker.

Use the search tool, find a broker who works with them. Give the broker all your information and have them give you the #'s. Then if rates are not as good, walk away. If rates are good, you just found your other way to get the same rate with a different lender.

Don't sit around and complain about Loan Cabin not servicing your state because that doesn't help your situation.
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Doatslo
07-31-2020 at 09:20 AM.
07-31-2020 at 09:20 AM.
scheduled to close w WM next week. (ANYONE know how WM sells their loan to)

30 year fixed @ 2.625% (no points) California.
LTV ~ 60%
A+B+C = $2800ish
Lender Credits = $2800ish

seeing the rates today, i might have missed another .125 decrease in rates . and saw LC is at 1.75 for a 15yr. WOW!!!
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07-31-2020 at 09:22 AM.
07-31-2020 at 09:22 AM.
Quote from Doatslo :
scheduled to close w WM next week. (ANYONE know how WM sells their loan to)

30 year fixed @ 2.625% (no points) California.
LTV ~ 60%
A+B+C = $2800ish
Lender Credits = $2800ish

seeing the rates today, i might have missed another .125 decrease in rates . and saw LC is at 1.75 for a 15yr. WOW!!!
Can you please provide your timelines and experience with WM? I am in the process with them WM and hence will help me.
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MILDEC
07-31-2020 at 09:24 AM.
07-31-2020 at 09:24 AM.
Quote from MeAPhool :
I understand. No other lender is showing that rate up front. But if you read the article I quoted from tedzo, United Wholesale was offering 1.875% and that was the other day. Today the rates improved so they might be offering 1.75% as well but you need to go through a broker.

Use the search tool, find a broker who works with them. Give the broker all your information and have them give you the #'s. Then if rates are not as good, walk away. If rates are good, you just found your other way to get the same rate with a different lender.

Don't sit around and complain about Loan Cabin not servicing your state because that doesn't help your situation.

But the article has nothing to do with the Loan Cabin rates in the context presented. I read the article the day it came out.

I've gone through brokers and continue to do so... lots of them. Any tips for brokers with rates like Loan Cabin's is appreciated.

And No. I'm going to sit around and complain. It helps my situation.

🙄
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07-31-2020 at 10:18 AM.
07-31-2020 at 10:18 AM.
Quote from nicemann :
If there they are covering A,B,C that is a pretty decent deal.
Thank you for your response.Yep they are covering A,B & C.I saw loanCabin is offering 1.75%.Does anyone has contact details for LC
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MeAPhool
07-31-2020 at 10:26 AM.
07-31-2020 at 10:26 AM.
Quote from MILDEC :
But the article has nothing to do with the Loan Cabin rates in the context presented. I read the article the day it came out.

I've gone through brokers and continue to do so... lots of them. Any tips for brokers with rates like Loan Cabin's is appreciated.

And No. I'm going to sit around and complain. It helps my situation.
Seems like you don't understand. Only a broker can see what rates United Wholesale Mortgage is offering. You/me/individual can not.

For the 3rd time, find a broker that works with United Wholesale and ask them to check for you.

Since Loan Cabin does not service your state, I am providing a "competitor" (aka another option). It's just that you have to go through a broker to see if that option works for you.
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Quote from MeAPhool :
Please see above, one lender might use a FICO score that aggregates hard inquiries within a 14 day period, while others may use a FICO score that aggregates hard inquiries within a 45 day period. I don't think we have that information per lender publicly available.

I would start checking in the 55 day range and get 60 day locks unless you are confident rates will be low for a long period of time. However since rates are so low, lenders are overwhelmed with applications. Be aware, you may not get immediate response from the lenders with the lowest rates. You will get pretty quick responses from lenders with higher rates for obvious reasons (not as overwhelmed).
Thank you.
If I do a 60 lock wouldn't the rate be higher than a 30 day lock​?

Would the lenders accept to get a "pre-approval" to get a rate before a hardpull or they are required to do a credit check?
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07-31-2020 at 10:45 AM.
07-31-2020 at 10:45 AM.
Quote from King_Chucky :
Thank you.
If I do a 60 lock wouldn't the rate be higher than a 30 day lock​?

Would the lenders accept to get a "pre-approval" to get a rate before a hardpull or they are required to do a credit check?
Historically yes, a 60-day lock might have same rate but increased costs, or a slightly higher rate. I can't say whether that is true across lenders, it is only something you can ask each lender.

You can even ask them without applying, just as an inquiry. For example:

Dear Lender,

I will be applying for a purchase loan within the month. Can you let me know if there is a difference between the rate/closing costs for a 30-day lock vs 60-day? Due to Covid pandemic, is it possible for me to get the same package on a 60-day lock?

Regards,
King_Chucky Smilie


If you have time, you can always call and ask to get more information. This won't involved any credit pull.
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MILDEC
07-31-2020 at 10:49 AM.
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Quote from MeAPhool :
Seems like you don't understand. Only a broker can see what rates United Wholesale Mortgage is offering. You/me/individual can not.

For the 3rd time, find a broker that works with United Wholesale and ask them to check for you.

Since Loan Cabin does not service your state, I am providing a "competitor" (aka another option). It's just that you have to go through a broker to see if that option works for you.

Uugghh.

No, it is you who does not understand.

This has NOTHING to do with United Wholesale. I said nothing about United Wholesale.

This only has to do with rates at Loan Cabin.

https://www.loancabin.com/rates/

Not sure why you want to keep bringing United into it..

But thank you for your 'assistance.'
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07-31-2020 at 11:11 AM.
07-31-2020 at 11:11 AM.
Quote from MILDEC :
I was super excited to see Loan Cabin drop its 15 to 1.75% APR today.

And during my application process..... I was super bummed to learn that they don't do business in Virginia.

Where else can I get 1.75%..

Mad
I am answering that above question over and over. Yes you can not get it from Loan Cabin because they do not service Virginia. BUT you can get it from United Wholesale if you call a broker. I'm not sure how clear I can be but I can only help you so much. If you can not read or understand, there's nothing else I can do to help. Good luck!

Quote from MILDEC :
Uugghh.

No, it is you who does not understand.

This has NOTHING to do with United Wholesale. I said nothing about United Wholesale.

This only has to do with rates at Loan Cabin.

https://www.loancabin.com/rates/

Not sure why you want to keep bringing United into it..

But thank you for your 'assistance.'
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07-31-2020 at 11:55 AM.
Quote from TPVPT :
I just asked via email if a float down was possible and he mentioned that it was included with no fee. Not sure if it's listed anywhere in legal terms.
Did you find any way to see what their rates were at or did you just have to ask the LO if the rate had dropped?
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