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Details on how to understand the Mortgage basics and information that I understand for your learning can be accessed on this post (Click this hyperlink to go to the post); If you are new to this process and have questions this is a Must Read before asking question on the forum!


Reviving my over a decade old thread from SD and FW as the rates have gotten competitive. This thread is a SD community thread to compare and post best rates received along with their lender experience for a quick compare and estimation from a starting point.


Please note that rates will vary on quite a few factors and just because one person has a rate will not guarantee you will receive the same rate but simply use this as a guide and negotiation tactic.

All below rates are based on assumptions of certain LTV, DTI, & Excellent Credit Scores:

30 Year Fixed best rates (Assuming Good Credit & 20% down, low LTV, low DTI, etc etc):
All listed lenders are here because I shopped them and have encountered competitive pricing and not because I get any sort of a kickback....use this as a gauge for the latest but note that things can change week to week, day to day and even hour to hour:

07/14/2021 2.875% Better.com- Will consider Lender Match to beat Competitors and combine with Amex cashback (Click here for additional Forum thread details). Amex's "Digital Assist" Team @ 800-297-7500

07/14/2021 2.875% LoanDepot.com - Is competitive but works better if you have another offer for them. My LO Luke Dean
[email protected] 949-652-4521

07/14/2021 BSMFunding (David Pressel) - Call to get the latest rates (no published online). Very competitive rates; get everything in writing via email!
https://bsmfunding.mymortgage-onl...essel.html
David Pressel (NMLS: 562175)- Branch Manager - Phone: 908-208-2036
[email protected]
07/14/2021 2.5% LoanCabin [loancabin.com] - Most Competitive but refinance times have grow to almost 6 months for many people so proceed with caution as recent reviews indicate normal 1 month closing. Generally do not charge for big Lender Fees (A+B on LE) as they are under $100 in most cases; esp if appraisal is waived for your scenario.

07/14/2021 3% LenderFi - Competitive but might be slow and not work on beating other lender rates.
30 Year Fixed Jumbo Best Rates (Assuming Good Credit & 20% down):
TBD
15 year Fixed:
07/14/2021 2.0 % Better.com; matches Bankrate rates for themselves.
07/04/2020 2.5% NIH Credit Union with Lender Credit
Title Company Comparisions:
RadianTitleDirect.com - OP has used them for almost a decade with getting best rates (closed after Covid, Lender must submit order as consumer side is closed).
ALTTitle.com
https://www.valerotitle.com/ - Texas only.
Alphabetical list of other lenders (some could be non-proven without direct member experiences posted here):
  1. AimLoan - Will provide LE without hard pull if credit is frozen https://www.aimloan.com/
  2. Amerisave - will give you scores from all 3 bureaus with just a soft pull https://www.amerisave.com/
  3. Better.com https://better.com/
  4. BoxHomeLoans https://www.boxhomeloans.com/
  5. Close Your Own Loan https://www.closeyourownloan.com/...sults.aspx
  6. Colonial Mort http://www.colonialmort.com/
  7. HighTechLending http://www.hightechlending.co/Default.aspx
  8. Interactive Mortgage https://interactivemortgage.com/ Eric from IM is super rude so good luck dealing with this guy!
  9. LenderFi https://www.lenderfi.com [lenderfi.com]if the link wont work try this backend link: https://app.lenderfi.com/app/sign...r/lenderfi
  10. Loan Cabin https://www.loancabin.com/
  11. Loan Depot https://www.loandepot.com/
  12. LoanLock https://www.loanlock.com/
  13. NavyFederal CU https://www.navyfederal.org/
  14. NIH credit union (Delware, District of Columbia, Maryland, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Virginia, West Virginia) https://www.nihfcu.org/
  15. Northpointe Bank https://www.northpointe.com/
  16. Owning.com (Operates only in CA) https://owning.com/
  17. Pentagon Federal CU https://www.penfed.org/
  18. Provident Funding - will give LE without locking rate https://www.provident.com/
  19. RatePlus (California) https://www.rateplus.com/
  20. Travis Credit Union (12 North Cal Counties only) https://www.traviscu.org/ Eligibility traviscu.org
  21. United wholesale mortgages https://www.uwm.com/
  22. Watermark Home Loans https://www.watermarkhomeloans.com/
  23. West Coast Mortgage Associates (The loan broker is in So.Cal. Debbie Morgan) https://wcmtg.com/


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Old Thread - https://slickdeals.net/e/1223863-03-06-2009-best-mortgage-rates-from-big-reputable-lenders-30year-5-15year-5-arm-s-etc

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Quote from MeAPhool :
I think a lot of people get confused with regards to "no closing cost". Specifically I think that is with regards to A+B+C (as referenced in this post by volcomssj48 - https://slickdeals.net/forums/showpost.php?p=138543920&postcount=138)

As per volcomssj48, this is a good place to go for a basic understanding of the LE (Loan Estimate) that should be provided to you by each lender once you give all of your information: https://www.consumerfinance.gov/o...-estimate/

I'm in NJ so I can't really shop Title Insurance much as it's the cost is regulated by the state, however in other states, you can really cut down some of the costs in section "C".
Good site for daily mortgage news. Subscribe to their daily mortgage rate news to learn about their predictions. Also take a look at the rest of their site.
http://www.mortgagenewsdaily.com/...age_rates/



Potential Lenders - Mentioned in Thread
*Please add to this list and add locality if applicable*

  1. Loan Cabin https://www.loancabin.com/
  2. Better.com https://better.com/
  3. Interactive Mortgage https://interactivemortgage.com/
  4. LenderFi https://www.lenderfi.com/
  5. owning.com (Operates only in CA) https://owning.com/
  6. NIH credit union (Delware, District of Columbia, Maryland, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Virginia, West Virginia) https://www.nihfcu.org/
  7. Loan Depot https://www.loandepot.com/
  8. Travis Credit Union (12 North Cal Counties only) https://www.traviscu.org/ Eligibility [traviscu.org]
  9. Pentagon Federal CU https://www.penfed.org/
  10. Interactive Mortgage https://interactivemortgage.com/
  11. NavyFederal CU https://www.navyfederal.org/
  12. United wholesale mortgages https://www.uwm.com/
  13. BoxHomeLoans https://www.boxhomeloans.com/
  14. LoanLock https://www.loanlock.com/
  15. West Coast Mortgage Associates (The loan broker is in So.Cal. Debbie Morgan) https://wcmtg.com/
  16. RatePlus (California) https://www.rateplus.com/
  17. Northpointe Bank https://www.northpointe.com/
  18. HighTechLending https://hightechlending.mortgagewebcenter.com/
  19. Close Your Own Loan https://www.closeyourownloan.com/...sults.aspx
  20. AimLoan - will give LE without hard pull if credit is frozen https://www.aimloan.com/
  21. Amerisave - will give you scores from all 3 bureaus with just a soft pull
    https://www.amerisave.com/
  22. Provident - will give LE without locking rate https://www.provident.com/ Best Credit Back with 60% LTV or better.
  23. Watermark Home Loans https://www.watermarkhomeloans.com/ Skip these guys. They are being rude to Slickdealers. In one occasion they have explicitly said they don't want to do business with people from Slickdeals. They also have an approach where they give you the best rate initially and just raise it more each time you ask.
  24. Colonial Mort http://www.colonialmort.com/
  25. Annie Mac https://www.annie-mac.com/ Licensed in these states https://www.annie-mac.com/page/licensed-states/
  26. Rate Rabbit https://www.raterabbit.com/ Licensed in MA and others [raterabbit.com]

Discount lenders who DO NOT accept fully documented in tax returns self-employment income:
Owning.com
BoxHomeLoans
Lower.com

Discount Lenders that DO accept fully documented in tax returns self-employment income:
Sebonic
Caliber
Sage

Title Company Shopping
AltTitle.com
mytitlegenius.com (formerly entitle direct)
TO AVOID - Settlement LTD (local Pittsburgh run away from them - high cost, very bad service, lot of delays)


Feel Free to Add Sections for Each Lender - MeAPhool

Loan Cabin - DetailsWARNING. DO NOT GO WITH LOAN CABIN. TRUST ME.
I would have lost the home if i was trying to buy a house.
I just had a normal refi and it took then 127 days to close. out of the 27 emails i sent, they responded to 3. I even had to call (complain) their main office 2 times to get a response to any emails. they screwed the closing paperwork as well.


Loan Cabin does not charge lender fees. Actually all of this is in their FAQ but of course nobody reads anything and wants everything spoon fed.

This means A+B (reference the link above in the wiki regarding Loan Estimate) in the Loan Estimate should be 0 (as long as your appraisal is waived).

You will be responsible for Title Cost (of course you can shop that to your heart's delight)
You will be responsible for Recording Fee in your county
You will be responsible for Escrows (if you so choose OR if you are close to Homeowner's OR Property Tax payment - though you can negotiate and show evidence to get it waived. Most lender's will waive it if you are choosing not to escrow and you can show proof that you paid the upcoming Property Tax or Homeowner's Insurance)

You will be responsible for Prepaid Interest (this isn't a cost. If you didn't refinance, you'd be paying the interest at your current mortgage rate which I assume would be higher).

Lender Credit - If this covers A+B+C+E then you have a no-cost refinance. If you have a surplus aside from A+B+C+E, then technically you made money on your refinance.


If you apply and do no hear back for 3 days, then on the 3rd business day, reach out to [email protected]. They will usually help get a response on your application within a day.



If the information in this WIKI does not cover your questions, then please ask. We will answer and update WIKI accordingly.

Thanks - MeAPhool

Quote from arouncoumar :
For those needing clarity on LC closing costs, I was on the same boat. See what they charge here https://www.dropbox.com/s/r30ecea...t.png?dl=0
Quote from PeterLegend :
Here is a photo of my loan estimate from Loan Cabin, my lender credits should be closer to 3K based on my initial conversations with Bob so i'm following up with him on that.

I do see title insurance in my estimate. I reached out to Owning but I didn't quality for the no cost refinance option since my LTV was 73%, it has to be 50% or lower when I spoke to them.

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08-06-2020 at 08:39 PM.
08-06-2020 at 08:39 PM.
Quote from user017 :
What is your LTV and loan amount? Does LenderFi have penalty for refi within 6 months?
LTV is ~40% on a $500k loan. I'm in SoCal. I think I read on this thread or another one about a possible LenderFi penalty, but I don't know the details.
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08-06-2020 at 10:38 PM.
08-06-2020 at 10:38 PM.
My current 15 year rate is 2.75% that i refinanced in March/Apr this year. Looking at rates in Loan Cabin and Owning I see LC is 2% and Owning 2.25%.

I believe Owning is true zero cost. Not sure about LC's closing cost. I selected "Waive Escrow" in both.

If I apply to both, will I have time to look at LC's closing cost to see if its better than Owning?

Has anyone applied to both Owning and LC share experience?

Thanks
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08-06-2020 at 11:53 PM.
08-06-2020 at 11:53 PM.
Quote from quizzer :
My current 15 year rate is 2.75% that i refinanced in March/Apr this year. Looking at rates in Loan Cabin and Owning I see LC is 2% and Owning 2.25%.

I believe Owning is true zero cost. Not sure about LC's closing cost. I selected "Waive Escrow" in both.

If I apply to both, will I have time to look at LC's closing cost to see if its better than Owning?

Has anyone applied to both Owning and LC share experience?

Thanks
I had refinanced with owning.com back in 2019. It is 'true closing cost'. I paid nothing out-of-pocket.
I'm hearing LC is the same too. However, there is ~2 week turnaround right now at LC (for them to even look at your application!).
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08-07-2020 at 03:23 AM.
08-07-2020 at 03:23 AM.
Quote from JetBlast :
I'm refinancing with LC a month after closing with Better. I haven't had any issues and they used my initial application. Worked out really well as I didn't have to reapply or obtain another credit check. I locked a day after emailing the guy back about wanting to re-refinance

Do you have a contact?
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08-07-2020 at 04:31 AM.
08-07-2020 at 04:31 AM.
Anyone push Better the day before closing to "Inquire about pulling the loan and not closing" to see if they will provide anything better Credit wise?


As noted I am being asked to bring a ton more to close and pay up almost $6,000 in taxes which are already sitting in an escrow with current lender. I can float but want to see if this can be pushed into a last minute negotiation with Better if anyone has any experience.


I've emailed the Better team about my "Inquiry" as such and have not asked them to cancel or pull anything but just to "explore my options" and noted "material changes in the closing disclosures".


RISK? Pointers from Experience?


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08-07-2020 at 06:53 AM.
08-07-2020 at 06:53 AM.
Quote from shahhere :
Anyone push Better the day before closing to "Inquire about pulling the loan and not closing" to see if they will provide anything better Credit wise?


As noted I am being asked to bring a ton more to close and pay up almost $6,000 in taxes which are already sitting in an escrow with current lender. I can float but want to see if this can be pushed into a last minute negotiation with Better if anyone has any experience.


I've emailed the Better team about my "Inquiry" as such and have not asked them to cancel or pull anything but just to "explore my options" and noted "material changes in the closing disclosures".


RISK? Pointers from Experience?


Shahhere
They pulled this shit on me right after approving my loan. I haven't signed closing disclosures and I am waiting for LC to get back to me with LE so I can tell Better.com to go f** themselves or match with LC at the last step. In fact, i recently paid my RE taxes so they didn't even know that and refuse to adjust my disclosures so i am holding.
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08-07-2020 at 06:55 AM.
08-07-2020 at 06:55 AM.
Quote from shahhere :
Anyone push Better the day before closing to "Inquire about pulling the loan and not closing" to see if they will provide anything better Credit wise?


As noted I am being asked to bring a ton more to close and pay up almost $6,000 in taxes which are already sitting in an escrow with current lender. I can float but want to see if this can be pushed into a last minute negotiation with Better if anyone has any experience.


I've emailed the Better team about my "Inquiry" as such and have not asked them to cancel or pull anything but just to "explore my options" and noted "material changes in the closing disclosures".


RISK? Pointers from Experience?


Shahhere
Would like to know too!
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08-07-2020 at 07:58 AM.
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Which lender is this again?
This was the home builders owned financing dept. No one you can refi with.
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Quote from shahhere :
Anyone push Better the day before closing to "Inquire about pulling the loan and not closing" to see if they will provide anything better Credit wise?


As noted I am being asked to bring a ton more to close and pay up almost $6,000 in taxes which are already sitting in an escrow with current lender. I can float but want to see if this can be pushed into a last minute negotiation with Better if anyone has any experience.


I've emailed the Better team about my "Inquiry" as such and have not asked them to cancel or pull anything but just to "explore my options" and noted "material changes in the closing disclosures".


RISK? Pointers from Experience?


Shahhere
Why not roll the amount into the loan? If your aversion is that it increases your leverage, well in this environment it may not be such a bad thing. Mortgage is the lowest cost debt you can get and in order to take advantage of the current declining rate environment, it may be good idea to have optimal amount of debt on your personal balance sheet. With 30 year mortgages headed towards a 1% handle, it may be good idea to borrow optimally on mortgage and use it to increase personal savings / investment.
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08-07-2020 at 08:17 AM.
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Quote from nagraw4 :
Why not roll the amount into the loan? If your aversion is that it increases your leverage, well in this environment it may not be such a bad thing. Mortgage is the lowest cost debt you can get and in order to take advantage of the current declining rate environment, it may be good idea to have optimal amount of debt on your personal balance sheet. With 30 year mortgages headed towards a 1% handle, it may be good idea to borrow optimally on mortgage and use it to increase personal savings / investment.
That's true, isn't that like a small cash-out?
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08-07-2020 at 08:27 AM.
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Quote from nagraw4 :
Why not roll the amount into the loan? If your aversion is that it increases your leverage, well in this environment it may not be such a bad thing. Mortgage is the lowest cost debt you can get and in order to take advantage of the current declining rate environment, it may be good idea to have optimal amount of debt on your personal balance sheet. With 30 year mortgages headed towards a 1% handle, it may be good idea to borrow optimally on mortgage and use it to increase personal savings / investment.

Just leverage Smilie.


I am concerned to roll in the costs today would make a lot of document changes as Title cost is a % of the borrowed amount etc...


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08-07-2020 at 08:32 AM.
08-07-2020 at 08:32 AM.
Do i really have to include my ssn with my loan application with loan cabin? i KNOW i WILL AT SOME POINT. JUST NOT RIGHT OFF THE BAT. SEEMS RISKY.
I hate just throwing that number out to just anyone willy nilly.
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08-07-2020 at 08:33 AM.
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Quote from HilariousNose335 :
Do i really have to include my ssn with my loan application with loan cabin?
I hate just throwing that number out to just anyone willy nilly.

Nope; they take IOUs instead as well or your YMCA number to validate your credit worthiness!


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08-07-2020 at 08:35 AM.
i KNOW i WILL AT SOME POINT. JUST NOT RIGHT OFF THE BAT. SEEMS RISKY.
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Quote from nagraw4 :
Why not roll the amount into the loan? If your aversion is that it increases your leverage, well in this environment it may not be such a bad thing. Mortgage is the lowest cost debt you can get and in order to take advantage of the current declining rate environment, it may be good idea to have optimal amount of debt on your personal balance sheet. With 30 year mortgages headed towards a 1% handle, it may be good idea to borrow optimally on mortgage and use it to increase personal savings / investment.
Quote from presto987 :
That's true, isn't that like a small cash-out?
So yea they said I am at max credit and only option is to roll in the costs......I could so will dwell on it for a few hours lol.


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