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Details on how to understand the Mortgage basics and information that I understand for your learning can be accessed on this post (Click this hyperlink to go to the post); If you are new to this process and have questions this is a Must Read before asking question on the forum!


Reviving my over a decade old thread from SD and FW as the rates have gotten competitive. This thread is a SD community thread to compare and post best rates received along with their lender experience for a quick compare and estimation from a starting point.


Please note that rates will vary on quite a few factors and just because one person has a rate will not guarantee you will receive the same rate but simply use this as a guide and negotiation tactic.

All below rates are based on assumptions of certain LTV, DTI, & Excellent Credit Scores:

30 Year Fixed best rates (Assuming Good Credit & 20% down, low LTV, low DTI, etc etc):
All listed lenders are here because I shopped them and have encountered competitive pricing and not because I get any sort of a kickback....use this as a gauge for the latest but note that things can change week to week, day to day and even hour to hour:

07/14/2021 2.875% Better.com- Will consider Lender Match to beat Competitors and combine with Amex cashback (Click here for additional Forum thread details). Amex's "Digital Assist" Team @ 800-297-7500

07/14/2021 2.875% LoanDepot.com - Is competitive but works better if you have another offer for them. My LO Luke Dean
[email protected] 949-652-4521

07/14/2021 BSMFunding (David Pressel) - Call to get the latest rates (no published online). Very competitive rates; get everything in writing via email!
https://bsmfunding.mymortgage-onl...essel.html
David Pressel (NMLS: 562175)- Branch Manager - Phone: 908-208-2036
[email protected]
07/14/2021 2.5% LoanCabin [loancabin.com] - Most Competitive but refinance times have grow to almost 6 months for many people so proceed with caution as recent reviews indicate normal 1 month closing. Generally do not charge for big Lender Fees (A+B on LE) as they are under $100 in most cases; esp if appraisal is waived for your scenario.

07/14/2021 3% LenderFi - Competitive but might be slow and not work on beating other lender rates.
30 Year Fixed Jumbo Best Rates (Assuming Good Credit & 20% down):
TBD
15 year Fixed:
07/14/2021 2.0 % Better.com; matches Bankrate rates for themselves.
07/04/2020 2.5% NIH Credit Union with Lender Credit
Title Company Comparisions:
RadianTitleDirect.com - OP has used them for almost a decade with getting best rates (closed after Covid, Lender must submit order as consumer side is closed).
ALTTitle.com
https://www.valerotitle.com/ - Texas only.
Alphabetical list of other lenders (some could be non-proven without direct member experiences posted here):
  1. AimLoan - Will provide LE without hard pull if credit is frozen https://www.aimloan.com/
  2. Amerisave - will give you scores from all 3 bureaus with just a soft pull https://www.amerisave.com/
  3. Better.com https://better.com/
  4. BoxHomeLoans https://www.boxhomeloans.com/
  5. Close Your Own Loan https://www.closeyourownloan.com/...sults.aspx
  6. Colonial Mort http://www.colonialmort.com/
  7. HighTechLending http://www.hightechlending.co/Default.aspx
  8. Interactive Mortgage https://interactivemortgage.com/ Eric from IM is super rude so good luck dealing with this guy!
  9. LenderFi https://www.lenderfi.com [lenderfi.com]if the link wont work try this backend link: https://app.lenderfi.com/app/sign...r/lenderfi
  10. Loan Cabin https://www.loancabin.com/
  11. Loan Depot https://www.loandepot.com/
  12. LoanLock https://www.loanlock.com/
  13. NavyFederal CU https://www.navyfederal.org/
  14. NIH credit union (Delware, District of Columbia, Maryland, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Virginia, West Virginia) https://www.nihfcu.org/
  15. Northpointe Bank https://www.northpointe.com/
  16. Owning.com (Operates only in CA) https://owning.com/
  17. Pentagon Federal CU https://www.penfed.org/
  18. Provident Funding - will give LE without locking rate https://www.provident.com/
  19. RatePlus (California) https://www.rateplus.com/
  20. Travis Credit Union (12 North Cal Counties only) https://www.traviscu.org/ Eligibility traviscu.org
  21. United wholesale mortgages https://www.uwm.com/
  22. Watermark Home Loans https://www.watermarkhomeloans.com/
  23. West Coast Mortgage Associates (The loan broker is in So.Cal. Debbie Morgan) https://wcmtg.com/


Shahhere

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Quote from MeAPhool :
I think a lot of people get confused with regards to "no closing cost". Specifically I think that is with regards to A+B+C (as referenced in this post by volcomssj48 - https://slickdeals.net/forums/showpost.php?p=138543920&postcount=138)

As per volcomssj48, this is a good place to go for a basic understanding of the LE (Loan Estimate) that should be provided to you by each lender once you give all of your information: https://www.consumerfinance.gov/o...-estimate/

I'm in NJ so I can't really shop Title Insurance much as it's the cost is regulated by the state, however in other states, you can really cut down some of the costs in section "C".
Good site for daily mortgage news. Subscribe to their daily mortgage rate news to learn about their predictions. Also take a look at the rest of their site.
http://www.mortgagenewsdaily.com/...age_rates/



Potential Lenders - Mentioned in Thread
*Please add to this list and add locality if applicable*

  1. Loan Cabin https://www.loancabin.com/
  2. Better.com https://better.com/
  3. Interactive Mortgage https://interactivemortgage.com/
  4. LenderFi https://www.lenderfi.com/
  5. owning.com (Operates only in CA) https://owning.com/
  6. NIH credit union (Delware, District of Columbia, Maryland, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Virginia, West Virginia) https://www.nihfcu.org/
  7. Loan Depot https://www.loandepot.com/
  8. Travis Credit Union (12 North Cal Counties only) https://www.traviscu.org/ Eligibility [traviscu.org]
  9. Pentagon Federal CU https://www.penfed.org/
  10. Interactive Mortgage https://interactivemortgage.com/
  11. NavyFederal CU https://www.navyfederal.org/
  12. United wholesale mortgages https://www.uwm.com/
  13. BoxHomeLoans https://www.boxhomeloans.com/
  14. LoanLock https://www.loanlock.com/
  15. West Coast Mortgage Associates (The loan broker is in So.Cal. Debbie Morgan) https://wcmtg.com/
  16. RatePlus (California) https://www.rateplus.com/
  17. Northpointe Bank https://www.northpointe.com/
  18. HighTechLending https://hightechlending.mortgagewebcenter.com/
  19. Close Your Own Loan https://www.closeyourownloan.com/...sults.aspx
  20. AimLoan - will give LE without hard pull if credit is frozen https://www.aimloan.com/
  21. Amerisave - will give you scores from all 3 bureaus with just a soft pull
    https://www.amerisave.com/
  22. Provident - will give LE without locking rate https://www.provident.com/ Best Credit Back with 60% LTV or better.
  23. Watermark Home Loans https://www.watermarkhomeloans.com/ Skip these guys. They are being rude to Slickdealers. In one occasion they have explicitly said they don't want to do business with people from Slickdeals. They also have an approach where they give you the best rate initially and just raise it more each time you ask.
  24. Colonial Mort http://www.colonialmort.com/
  25. Annie Mac https://www.annie-mac.com/ Licensed in these states https://www.annie-mac.com/page/licensed-states/
  26. Rate Rabbit https://www.raterabbit.com/ Licensed in MA and others [raterabbit.com]

Discount lenders who DO NOT accept fully documented in tax returns self-employment income:
Owning.com
BoxHomeLoans
Lower.com

Discount Lenders that DO accept fully documented in tax returns self-employment income:
Sebonic
Caliber
Sage

Title Company Shopping
AltTitle.com
mytitlegenius.com (formerly entitle direct)
TO AVOID - Settlement LTD (local Pittsburgh run away from them - high cost, very bad service, lot of delays)


Feel Free to Add Sections for Each Lender - MeAPhool

Loan Cabin - DetailsWARNING. DO NOT GO WITH LOAN CABIN. TRUST ME.
I would have lost the home if i was trying to buy a house.
I just had a normal refi and it took then 127 days to close. out of the 27 emails i sent, they responded to 3. I even had to call (complain) their main office 2 times to get a response to any emails. they screwed the closing paperwork as well.


Loan Cabin does not charge lender fees. Actually all of this is in their FAQ but of course nobody reads anything and wants everything spoon fed.

This means A+B (reference the link above in the wiki regarding Loan Estimate) in the Loan Estimate should be 0 (as long as your appraisal is waived).

You will be responsible for Title Cost (of course you can shop that to your heart's delight)
You will be responsible for Recording Fee in your county
You will be responsible for Escrows (if you so choose OR if you are close to Homeowner's OR Property Tax payment - though you can negotiate and show evidence to get it waived. Most lender's will waive it if you are choosing not to escrow and you can show proof that you paid the upcoming Property Tax or Homeowner's Insurance)

You will be responsible for Prepaid Interest (this isn't a cost. If you didn't refinance, you'd be paying the interest at your current mortgage rate which I assume would be higher).

Lender Credit - If this covers A+B+C+E then you have a no-cost refinance. If you have a surplus aside from A+B+C+E, then technically you made money on your refinance.


If you apply and do no hear back for 3 days, then on the 3rd business day, reach out to [email protected]. They will usually help get a response on your application within a day.



If the information in this WIKI does not cover your questions, then please ask. We will answer and update WIKI accordingly.

Thanks - MeAPhool

Quote from arouncoumar :
For those needing clarity on LC closing costs, I was on the same boat. See what they charge here https://www.dropbox.com/s/r30ecea...t.png?dl=0
Quote from PeterLegend :
Here is a photo of my loan estimate from Loan Cabin, my lender credits should be closer to 3K based on my initial conversations with Bob so i'm following up with him on that.

I do see title insurance in my estimate. I reached out to Owning but I didn't quality for the no cost refinance option since my LTV was 73%, it has to be 50% or lower when I spoke to them.

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08-25-2020 at 02:05 PM.
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Quote from NervousClover7482 :
So if I'm in the middle of a refi, should I just tell them to stop the process, and reapply in a couple weeks?
How should we use the FHFA delay to our advantage?
You should talk your LO and find out how this delay affects your refinance tomorrow/ day after.
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08-25-2020 at 02:25 PM.
08-25-2020 at 02:25 PM.
With the adverse refinance rate getting pushed back to 12/01/2020, this is good because rates will stay low or go even lower right?

My Loan Cabin Refinance won't be completed until October at the earliest and there was a float down option within 15 days of under writing lol...
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08-25-2020 at 02:26 PM.
08-25-2020 at 02:26 PM.
Quote from PeterLegend :
That's a good perspective, I can ask Better.com but I have a feeling if the appraisal is waved I wouldn't be surprised if my lender credits dropped lol...

My lender credits for Loan Cabin should be closer to 3K based on the initial chart I got from Bob even though it shows $1907 on the Loan Estimate. Which I pointed out in my email to them.

I also spoke to Loan Depot this morning, they were checking what rates they could give me when their "system crashed", they're supposed to call me later today to follow-up. I did tell them I had other Loan Estimates on the table as well...
it's not likely they will amend the lender credit based on removing the appraisal fee. lender credit should be set in stone until you change the product or rate (or if rates/credits change due to not locking in this LE). now of course the credits can increase once you lock in, but never decrease. Better gave me $1300 credit and two weeks later added 800 to it.
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Quote from NervousClover7482 :
So if I'm in the middle of a refi, should I just tell them to stop the process, and reapply in a couple weeks?
How should we use the FHFA delay to our advantage?
If you locked before the fee was announced, you didn't have the fee baked in into your rate. So nothing to do there. But if you locked after the announcement, go shopping! Lenders might take a day or two to bring rates down but keep an eye out. Some will be more aggressive than the others.
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Quote from NervousClover7482 :
Hi new here. I got a cashout refi rate from Owning for 2.65% at 1.5 points. Cashout is $110K, does this sound reasonable? Other lenders couldn't even get close to 2.65% for cashout.
Hi, If this helps, I got a cashout refi rate of 2.625% with 0 points and $444 credit from better. Property is based in utah and loan amount is 510k
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Hi, If this helps, I got a cashout refi rate of 2.625% with 0 points and $444 credit from better. Property is based in utah and loan amount is 510k
Quote from mchrid :
Hi, If this helps, I got a cashout refi rate of 2.625% with 0 points and $444 credit from better. Property is based in utah and loan amount is 510k
Thanks! Does it matter where the property is located at? This is in California. I'll have to apply at Better, that's a much better rate. 1.5% at $510 is $7500
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Quote from NervousClover7482 :
Thanks! Does it matter where the property is located at? This is in California. I'll have to apply at Better, that's a much better rate. 1.5% at $510 is $7500
Hi there, Just realized that I didn't mention that the rate was for 20 year fixed.If your quote is for 30 yr fixed, may be it's not too bad. better.com quote was 3% with 0 points and no credit for 30 yr fixed. I was able to check out their rate on zillow without completing the application.
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Hi there, Just realized that I didn't mention that the rate was for 20 year fixed.If your quote is for 30 yr fixed, may be it's not too bad. better.com quote was 3% with 0 points and no credit for 30 yr fixed. I was able to check out their rate on zillow without completing the application.
NervousClover7482Thanks! Does it matter where the property is located at? This is in California. I'll have to apply at Better, that's a much better rate. 1.5% at $510 is $7500
Also not sure if location really matters.
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Quote from NervousClover7482 :
Thanks! Does it matter where the property is located at? This is in California. I'll have to apply at Better, that's a much better rate. 1.5% at $510 is $7500
What I have found is that location matters a lot mainly because of competition among lenders.
CA seems to be one of the most competitive market with multiple lenders beating each other.
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Need some assistance possibly finding a better deal - Home Equity or HELOC.

Wife and I have a good handle on our finances and credit scores are over 760 for both of us.. We have 5 loans:

Loan.. - Term - Rate.. - Orig Bal.. - Cur Bal.. - Payment
House - 30y. - 3.85% - $124,000 - $112,400 - $583 P&I
Pool... - 10y. - 7.99% - ..$54,000 - ..$37,130 - $603
Solar.. - 20y. - 4.99% - ..$34,000 - ..$28,010 - $162
Car 1.. - 6y.. - 1.80% - ..$30,605 - ..$10,810 - $432
Car 2.. - 6y.. - 3.99% - ..$18,561 - ....$6,364 - $293

We have credit cards, but pay them off each month. Only use them for rewards/cash back.

Our financial plan has been in action for the last year where all the above loans will be paid off in just under 6 years. Total current Balance - $194,714. Total interest to be paid with plan - $24,485.49. I'm saving over $54,000 in interest.

With the lower interest rates this year, I've looked into doing a refi. I could potentially save another $7k-$9k in interest if I combine the house, pool, and solar at 3.25% or even lower. However, the closing costs and points associated with a refi will nullify the interest savings. Not to mention the increase in property taxes on the new appraisal. If I planned on running the loan over 25-30 years, it would make more sense, but my payoff is still the same 68-70 months. Interest is so low that I don't get any write off benefit on my taxes, so I'd rather get the house paid off and save on the interest.

So now I'm looking at an Equity Loan. The credit union I have one of my cars with sent me a notice of 5-year 4.25% no cost Equity loan. Quick appraisal came back at $159k which meant I only had $14k I could take out. Knowing that appraisal was way off, I paid $475 for a full appraisal which came back at $245k (much better with comparable home sales in the area over the last 4-5 months). Now I can do an equity loan up to $83k.

I will be combining the Pool and Solar to lower their interest rates, and getting about $4,500 cash for a needed storage shed. Both cars have 22 payments left and low balance and interest rates. Interest savings will be about $2,200 (minus the $475 for the full appraisal). Still decent and anything substantial saved is good. I could possibly get denied if they want to ponder the debt to income ratio. It will look skewed because I'm taking a 10 year pool loan and 20 year solar loan and combining into a shorter 5 year, lower interest loan which makes the difference of the existing $765 payments on the 2 loans vs the new $1297 payment on the Equity loan. I've been paying $1,450 to the pool loan for the past 8 months so we have the money. That plus the $300 i've been putting to the solar loan, we'll be paying $1,750 to this EL and in 22 months will go to $2,550/mo.

With the lower rates on new mortgate and refi's, I am looking for anything lower than 4.25%.I see PNC with 3.75% and some other Advert links to info farming (broker) sites that boast 2.4% Home Equity loan rates. I don't want the run-around, the up front lies, the points on the back end, or extra money layout. Cut and dry, simple EL or HELOC lower than 4.25 with no costs.

Any help is appreciated. Even looking at what I have and redirecting my ideas if I'm missing something.
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Quote from AJR214 :
Need some assistance possibly finding a better deal - Home Equity or HELOC.

Wife and I have a good handle on our finances and credit scores are over 760 for both of us.. We have 5 loans:

Loan.. - Term - Rate.. - Orig Bal.. - Cur Bal.. - Payment
House - 30y. - 3.85% - $124,000 - $112,400 - $583 P&I
Pool... - 10y. - 7.99% - ..$54,000 - ..$37,130 - $603
Solar.. - 20y. - 4.99% - ..$34,000 - ..$28,010 - $162
Car 1.. - 6y.. - 1.80% - ..$30,605 - ..$10,810 - $432
Car 2.. - 6y.. - 3.99% - ..$18,561 - ....$6,364 - $293

We have credit cards, but pay them off each month. Only use them for rewards/cash back.

Our financial plan has been in action for the last year where all the above loans will be paid off in just under 6 years. Total current Balance - $194,714. Total interest to be paid with plan - $24,485.49. I'm saving over $54,000 in interest.

With the lower interest rates this year, I've looked into doing a refi. I could potentially save another $7k-$9k in interest if I combine the house, pool, and solar at 3.25% or even lower. However, the closing costs and points associated with a refi will nullify the interest savings. Not to mention the increase in property taxes on the new appraisal. If I planned on running the loan over 25-30 years, it would make more sense, but my payoff is still the same 68-70 months. Interest is so low that I don't get any write off benefit on my taxes, so I'd rather get the house paid off and save on the interest.

So now I'm looking at an Equity Loan. The credit union I have one of my cars with sent me a notice of 5-year 4.25% no cost Equity loan. Quick appraisal came back at $159k which meant I only had $14k I could take out. Knowing that appraisal was way off, I paid $475 for a full appraisal which came back at $245k (much better with comparable home sales in the area over the last 4-5 months). Now I can do an equity loan up to $83k.

I will be combining the Pool and Solar to lower their interest rates, and getting about $4,500 cash for a needed storage shed. Both cars have 22 payments left and low balance and interest rates. Interest savings will be about $2,200 (minus the $475 for the full appraisal). Still decent and anything substantial saved is good. I could possibly get denied if they want to ponder the debt to income ratio. It will look skewed because I'm taking a 10 year pool loan and 20 year solar loan and combining into a shorter 5 year, lower interest loan which makes the difference of the existing $765 payments on the 2 loans vs the new $1297 payment on the Equity loan. I've been paying $1,450 to the pool loan for the past 8 months so we have the money. That plus the $300 i've been putting to the solar loan, we'll be paying $1,750 to this EL and in 22 months will go to $2,550/mo.

With the lower rates on new mortgate and refi's, I am looking for anything lower than 4.25%.I see PNC with 3.75% and some other Advert links to info farming (broker) sites that boast 2.4% Home Equity loan rates. I don't want the run-around, the up front lies, the points on the back end, or extra money layout. Cut and dry, simple EL or HELOC lower than 4.25 with no costs.

Any help is appreciated. Even looking at what I have and redirecting my ideas if I'm missing something.
Your appraisal used for mortgage loan/refinance does not impact your property tax. They are not forwarded to your township/county.

https://homeguides.sfgate.com/pro...49545.html

I know you stated you inquired about cash-out refi but you didn't provide any numbers.
Can you give us some insight so we can see which lenders you spoke with and what you were getting quoted?

The following analysis is assuming you can get a 15-year cash-out refi @ 3.25% at no cost for $155K to cover your house, pool, and storage shed. I'm not sure you can cash-out 80% LTV otherwise you should do that which might help with your rate.

Your Current Situation - I can't get your exact numbers
Loan Term Rate Orig Amount Cur Balance Payment Remaining Interest Comments
House + FillerText 30y 3.85% $124,000 $112,400 $583 P&I ~$63,500 
Pool 10y 7.99% $54,000 $37,130 $603 ~$10,000 10yr 54K loan @ 7.99 is 654.88/month. Not sure how your payment is $603.
Solar 20y 4.99% $34,000 $28,010 $162 ~$11,500 20yr 34K loan @ 4.99 is 224.20/month. Not sure how your payment is $162.
Car 1 6y 1.80% $30,605 $10,810 $432 ~$200 same comment as above, I get 448.75/month based on your #'s.
Car 2 6y 3.99% $18,561 $6,364 $293 ~$250 same comment as above, I get 290.31/month.
Total n/a n/a $261,166 $194,714 $2,073 ~$85,450 Really rough due to #'s not matching above.

If you can cash-out refi at 3.25% for no-cost, you can then consolidate your House & Pool Loan into 1 payment. Then take the equity loan to reduce the interest on your Solar Loan. Without knowing your prepay plan and just keeping numbers strictly as is, this is what I see.

New Situation
Loan Term Rate Orig Amount Cur Balance Payment Remaining Interest Comments
House/Pool/Shed 15y 3.25% $155,000 $155,000 $1,089.14 ~$41,044.59 You save ~$32,000 in interest (over previous home/pool loan)
Solar 5y 4.25% $28,010 $28,010 $506.42 ~$2,375.25 You save ~$9,000 in interest
Car 1 6y 1 80% $30,605 $10,810 $432 ~$200 same comment as above, I get 448.75/month based on your #'s.
Car 2 6y 3 99% $18,561 $6,364 $293 ~$250 same comment as above, I get 290.31/month.
Total n/a n/a $232,176 $200,184 $2,320.56 ~$43,869.84 Estimates since I can't match your numbers

If something similar is feasible, your monthly payments go up about $250 but you save over $40,000 in interest.

Granted, I'm not sure if your equity loan would still be possible if you did a refinance at the same time (maybe your equity loan rate would be slightly worse).

In theory if you wanted, you could even increase your refi cash-out and pay off your 2nd car loan. Won't save you much but it's 1 less payment.
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shahhere
08-25-2020 at 06:05 PM.
08-25-2020 at 06:05 PM.
MeAPhool: great and detailed response to the person above; appreciate your help and others here.


I agree that consolidated the higher % loans into a Cashout and keep with your 6 year plan by paying more towards your monthly payments for the mortgage. Basically keep paying the other payments consolidated towards your mortgage and it should be paid off sooner in that case.

Shahhere
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08-25-2020 at 06:07 PM.
08-25-2020 at 06:07 PM.
Quote from AJR214 :
Need some assistance possibly finding a better deal - Home Equity or HELOC.

Wife and I have a good handle on our finances and credit scores are over 760 for both of us.. We have 5 loans:

Loan.. - Term - Rate.. - Orig Bal.. - Cur Bal.. - Payment
House - 30y. - 3.85% - $124,000 - $112,400 - $583 P&I
Pool... - 10y. - 7.99% - ..$54,000 - ..$37,130 - $603
Solar.. - 20y. - 4.99% - ..$34,000 - ..$28,010 - $162
Car 1.. - 6y.. - 1.80% - ..$30,605 - ..$10,810 - $432
Car 2.. - 6y.. - 3.99% - ..$18,561 - ....$6,364 - $293

We have credit cards, but pay them off each month. Only use them for rewards/cash back.

Our financial plan has been in action for the last year where all the above loans will be paid off in just under 6 years. Total current Balance - $194,714. Total interest to be paid with plan - $24,485.49. I'm saving over $54,000 in interest.

With the lower interest rates this year, I've looked into doing a refi. I could potentially save another $7k-$9k in interest if I combine the house, pool, and solar at 3.25% or even lower. However, the closing costs and points associated with a refi will nullify the interest savings. Not to mention the increase in property taxes on the new appraisal. If I planned on running the loan over 25-30 years, it would make more sense, but my payoff is still the same 68-70 months. Interest is so low that I don't get any write off benefit on my taxes, so I'd rather get the house paid off and save on the interest.

So now I'm looking at an Equity Loan. The credit union I have one of my cars with sent me a notice of 5-year 4.25% no cost Equity loan. Quick appraisal came back at $159k which meant I only had $14k I could take out. Knowing that appraisal was way off, I paid $475 for a full appraisal which came back at $245k (much better with comparable home sales in the area over the last 4-5 months). Now I can do an equity loan up to $83k.

I will be combining the Pool and Solar to lower their interest rates, and getting about $4,500 cash for a needed storage shed. Both cars have 22 payments left and low balance and interest rates. Interest savings will be about $2,200 (minus the $475 for the full appraisal). Still decent and anything substantial saved is good. I could possibly get denied if they want to ponder the debt to income ratio. It will look skewed because I'm taking a 10 year pool loan and 20 year solar loan and combining into a shorter 5 year, lower interest loan which makes the difference of the existing $765 payments on the 2 loans vs the new $1297 payment on the Equity loan. I've been paying $1,450 to the pool loan for the past 8 months so we have the money. That plus the $300 i've been putting to the solar loan, we'll be paying $1,750 to this EL and in 22 months will go to $2,550/mo.

With the lower rates on new mortgate and refi's, I am looking for anything lower than 4.25%.I see PNC with 3.75% and some other Advert links to info farming (broker) sites that boast 2.4% Home Equity loan rates. I don't want the run-around, the up front lies, the points on the back end, or extra money layout. Cut and dry, simple EL or HELOC lower than 4.25 with no costs.

Any help is appreciated. Even looking at what I have and redirecting my ideas if I'm missing something.
If you're already committed to paying off all of the loans in 6 years, then to save the most on interest you should cash-out refi to the lowest rate possible without closing costs to consolidate all the loans, and then prepay to get yourself back onto the same 6 year payoff schedule.

Some quick calcs show that you need to pay $2800 a month to pay off $177K (loan balance excluding cars) at an average interest rate of 5% in 6 years, paying total interest of $28K. If you cash-out refi to a 15 year at 3.25%, that would put your payments at $1250 a month. If you then prepay $1550 a month to get you to the $2800 you would have paid under a 6-year plan, then you'll payoff in 69 months (3 months faster) with total interest paid of $17K. So you'd save about $11K in interest under this scenario, before closing costs.

The HELOC route might be easier if don't want to deal with doing a full refi and closing costs. For reference, I had a HELOC from Alliant Credit Union. No application or appraisal fees to open a HELOC, and the interest rate is equal to the WSJ Prime rate minus 0.75% (floored at 4%), which fits your criteria if you don't mind the upside risk of rates picking back up.
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08-25-2020 at 11:15 PM.
08-25-2020 at 11:15 PM.
Quote from meaphool :
your appraisal used for mortgage loan/refinance does not impact your property tax. They are not forwarded to your township/county.

https://homeguides.sfgate.com/pro...49545.html

i know you stated you inquired about cash-out refi but you didn't provide any numbers.
Can you give us some insight so we can see which lenders you spoke with and what you were getting quoted?

The following analysis is assuming you can get a 15-year cash-out refi @ 3.25% at no cost for $155k to cover your house, pool, and storage shed. I'm not sure you can cash-out 80% ltv otherwise you should do that which might help with your rate.

your current situation - i can't get your exact numbers
loan term rate orig amount cur balance payment remaining interest comments
house + fillertext 30y 3.85% $124,000 $112,400 $583 p&i ~$63,500 
pool 10y 7.99% $54,000 $37,130 $603 ~$10,000 10yr 54k loan @ 7.99 is 654.88/month. Not sure how your payment is $603.
Solar 20y 4.99% $34,000 $28,010 $162 ~$11,500 20yr 34k loan @ 4.99 is 224.20/month. Not sure how your payment is $162.
Car 1 6y 1.80% $30,605 $10,810 $432 ~$200 same comment as above, i get 448.75/month based on your #'s.
Car 2 6y 3.99% $18,561 $6,364 $293 ~$250 same comment as above, i get 290.31/month.
Total n/a n/a $261,166 $194,714 $2,073 ~$85,450 really rough due to #'s not matching above.

if you can cash-out refi at 3.25% for no-cost, you can then consolidate your house & pool loan into 1 payment. Then take the equity loan to reduce the interest on your solar loan. Without knowing your prepay plan and just keeping numbers strictly as is, this is what i see.

new situation
loan term rate orig amount cur balance payment remaining interest comments
house/pool/shed 15y 3.25% $155,000 $155,000 $1,089.14 ~$41,044.59 you save ~$32,000 in interest (over previous home/pool loan)
solar 5y 4.25% $28,010 $28,010 $506.42 ~$2,375.25 you save ~$9,000 in interest
car 1 6y 1 80% $30,605 $10,810 $432 ~$200 same comment as above, i get 448.75/month based on your #'s.
Car 2 6y 3 99% $18,561 $6,364 $293 ~$250 same comment as above, i get 290.31/month.
Total n/a n/a $232,176 $200,184 $2,320.56 ~$43,869.84 estimates since i can't match your numbers

if something similar is feasible, your monthly payments go up about $250 but you save over $40,000 in interest.

Granted, i'm not sure if your equity loan would still be possible if you did a refinance at the same time (maybe your equity loan rate would be slightly worse).

In theory if you wanted, you could even increase your refi cash-out and pay off your 2nd car loan. Won't save you much but it's 1 less payment.
Thanks for the response meaphool. Here is hopefully information to clear up my explanation and your calculations.

* The Pool was a construction loan that totaled $54,450. Any payments made before it closed would adjust the locked in payment of the remaining balance which is probably why your calculation is off.

* The Solar loan is $34,000 with an 18 month open window to pay it down 30% using tax credits over 2 tax years before the payment adjusts and locks to remaining balance on month 19. Your calc is close to the payment if I don't pay the $10,500 in tax credits to the loan.

* Not sure of the calc difference in the car loans.

* You are calculating amortization totals to the end of the loans. I am calculating using my payment plans below. So while your differences in interest are very large looking at it 15-30 years out, I'm using the interest total of the current payment plan and readjusting from there to see how much more interest savings I can squeeze out. Which is why if I try and do a refi with cashout to pay the pool and solar, the savings don't justify the cost of the refi.

* I attempted the refi on March 20th just as Covid was bringing the end of the world. Rates were supposedly low and underwriters were backed up from previous weeks of record low rates. Amidst the uncertainty of Covid and the backlog, rates being quoted were higher at the time. Wife and I are essential employees with the state and have only missed 2 weeks of work (after vacation due to mandatory quarantine after returning from a cruise on March 15th - last cruise that has since sailed out of Tampa or pretty much anywhere for that matter). We both were still paid since we had the extra sick time on the books. I was looking at just the refi of the house and include the pool (that 7.99% kills me). Looking back I don't think it would have worked because the Solar loan has a lien on the property report and I would have had to include that payoff too. Mortgage companies I tried at the time were:

- Better.com since I have an Amex that had the $2,500 statement bonus reward option. The contact never got back to me
- RP Funding - $156k @ 4.5% on 30 year VA with a $2,500 buy down, $500 appraisal and the presumptive "No Closing Cost Mortgage"
- True Mortgage - no return call
- Loan Depot - $166k @ 4.125/4.75 for 15/30 with $10,083 closing costs on 30 year.
- Lennox/Westland Financial - $161k @ 4.875 on 30 year fixed with a follow up VA Earl to reduce the rate.
- 2 or 3 Other brokered calls from companies that I could tell were just bait and switch from the start.

I am displaying this the best I know how without attaching a spreadsheet. I cut out 2024 & 2025 rows since they are the same as the above and below rows (and trying to save space here). Our current plan is a 69 month payoff with $24,732.94 interest being paid.

Current Payoff Plan
-- Month -- --- Auto 2 --- --- Pmt --- --- Int --- --- Auto 1 --- --- Pmt --- --- Int --- ---- Pool ---- ---- Pmt ---- --- Int --- --- Solar --- ---- Pmt ---- --- Int --- - House - - Principal - --- Int --- - Escrow - --- Pmt ---   - Total Debt -
9/1/2020 $6,364.07 $300.00 $21.16 $10,811.82 $500.00 $16.22 $37,134.41 $1,413.00 $242.68 $28,010.16 $300.00 $118.72 $112,401.82 $284.20 $362.96 $252.84 $900.00   $194,722.28
10/1/2020 $6,085.23 $300.00 $20.23 $10,328.04 $500.00 $15.49 $35,964.09 $1,413.00 $235.03 $27,828.88 $300.00 $117.95 $112,117.62 $285.11 $362.05 $252.84 $900.00   $192,323.86
11/1/2020 $5,805.47 $300.00 $19.30 $9,843.53 $500.00 $14.77 $34,786.13 $1,413.00 $227.34 $27,646.82 $300.00 $117.18 $111,832.51 $286.03 $361.13 $252.84 $900.00   $189,914.46
12/1/2020 $5,524.77 $300.00 $18.37 $9,358.30 $500.00 $14.04 $33,600.46 $1,413.00 $219.59 $27,464.00 $300.00 $116.40 $111,546.47 $286.96 $360.20 $252.84 $900.00   $187,494.00
1/1/2021 $5,243.14 $300.00 $17.43 $8,872.33 $500.00 $13.31 $32,407.05 $1,413.00 $211.79 $27,280.40 $300.00 $115.62 $111,259.52 $287.88 $359.28 $252.84 $900.00   $185,062.44
2/1/2021 $4,960.57 $300.00 $16.49 $8,385.64 $500.00 $12.58 $31,205.84 $1,413.00 $203.94 $27,096.03 $300.00 $114.84 $110,971.63 $260.06 $358.35 $256.58 $874.99   $182,619.71
3/1/2021 $4,677.07 $300.00 $15.55 $7,898.22 $500.00 $11.85 $29,996.78 $1,413.00 $196.04 $26,910.87 $4,695.00 $114.06 $110,711.57 $260.90 $357.51 $256.58 $874.99   $180,194.50
4/1/2021 $4,392.62 $300.00 $14.61 $7,410.07 $500.00 $11.12 $28,779.81 $1,463.00 $188.08 $22,329.93 $250.00 $94.64 $110,450.66 $261.75 $356.66 $256.58 $874.99   $173,363.09
5/1/2021 $4,107.23 $300.00 $13.66 $6,921.18 $500.00 $10.38 $27,504.90 $1,463.00 $179.75 $22,174.57 $250.00 $93.98 $110,188.92 $262.59 $355.82 $256.58 $874.99   $170,896.79
6/1/2021 $3,820.88 $300.00 $12.70 $6,431.56 $500.00 $9.65 $26,221.65 $1,463.00 $171.37 $22,018.55 $250.00 $93.32 $109,926.32 $263.44 $354.97 $256.58 $874.99   $168,418.97
7/1/2021 $3,533.59 $300.00 $11.75 $5,941.21 $500.00 $8.91 $24,930.01 $1,463.00 $162.92 $21,861.87 $250.00 $92.66 $109,662.89 $264.29 $354.12 $256.58 $874.99   $165,929.57
8/1/2021 $3,245.34 $300.00 $10.79 $5,450.12 $500.00 $8.18 $23,629.94 $1,463.00 $154.43 $21,704.53 $250.00 $91.99 $109,398.59 $265.14 $353.27 $256.59 $875.00   $163,428.52
9/1/2021 $2,956.13 $300.00 $9.83 $4,958.30 $500.00 $7.44 $22,321.36 $1,463.00 $145.88 $21,546.52 $250.00 $91.32 $109,133.45 $266.00 $352.41 $256.59 $875.00   $160,915.76
10/1/2021 $2,665.96 $300.00 $8.86 $4,465.74 $500.00 $6.70 $21,004.24 $1,463.00 $137.27 $21,387.84 $250.00 $90.65 $108,867.45 $266.86 $351.55 $256.59 $875.00   $158,391.22
11/1/2021 $2,374.82 $300.00 $7.90 $3,972.43 $500.00 $5.96 $19,678.51 $1,463.00 $128.60 $21,228.49 $250.00 $89.97 $108,600.59 $267.72 $350.69 $256.59 $875.00   $155,854.84
12/1/2021 $2,082.72 $300.00 $6.93 $3,478.39 $500.00 $5.22 $18,344.11 $1,463.00 $119.88 $21,068.46 $250.00 $89.30 $108,332.87 $268.59 $349.82 $256.59 $875.00   $153,306.56
1/1/2022 $1,789.64 $300.00 $5.95 $2,983.61 $500.00 $4.48 $17,000.99 $1,463.00 $111.11 $20,907.76 $250.00 $88.61 $108,064.29 $269.51 $348.96 $256.59 $875.06   $150,746.29
2/1/2022 $1,495.59 $300.00 $4.97 $2,488.09 $500.00 $3.73 $15,649.10 $1,463.00 $102.27 $20,746.37 $250.00 $87.93 $107,794.77 $270.84 $348.09 $241.07 $860.00   $148,173.93
3/1/2022 $1,200.56 $300.00 $3.99 $1,991.82 $500.00 $2.99 $14,288.37 $1,463.00 $93.38 $20,584.30 $250.00 $87.24 $107,523.93 $271.72 $347.21 $241.07 $860.00   $145,588.99
4/1/2022 $904.56 $300.00 $3.01 $1,494.81 $500.00 $2.24 $12,918.75 $1,463.00 $84.43 $20,421.55 $250.00 $86.55 $107,252.21 $272.59 $346.34 $241.07 $860.00   $142,991.87
5/1/2022 $607.56 $300.00 $2.02 $997.05 $500.00 $1.50 $11,540.18 $1,463.00 $75.42 $20,258.10 $250.00 $85.86 $106,979.62 $273.47 $345.46 $241.07 $860.00   $140,382.51
6/1/2022 $309.58 $310.61 $1.03 $498.54 $499.29 $0.75 $10,152.59 $1,463.00 $66.35 $20,093.96 $250.00 $85.16 $106,706.14 $274.36 $344.57 $241.07 $860.00   $137,760.83
7/1/2022 $0.00    $0.00    $8,755.94 $2,263.00 $57.22 $19,929.13 $250.00 $84.47 $106,431.79 $275.25 $343.69 $241.06 $860.00   $135,116.86
8/1/2022       $6,550.17 $2,263.00 $42.81 $19,763.59 $250.00 $83.76 $106,156.53 $276.14 $342.80 $241.06 $860.00   $132,470.29
9/1/2022       $4,329.97 $2,263.00 $28.30 $19,597.36 $250.00 $83.06 $105,880.39 $277.03 $341.91 $241.06 $860.00   $129,807.72
10/1/2022       $2,095.27 $2,108.96 $13.69 $19,430.42 $404.04 $82.35 $105,603.36 $277.93 $341.01 $241.06 $860.00   $127,129.04
11/1/2022       $0.00    $19,108.73 $2,513.00 $80.99 $105,325.43 $278.83 $340.11 $241.06 $860.00   $124,434.16
12/1/2022          $16,676.72 $2,513.00 $70.68 $105,046.60 $279.73 $339.21 $241.06 $860.00   $121,723.32
1/1/2023          $14,234.40 $2,513.00 $60.33 $104,766.87 $280.63 $338.31 $241.06 $860.00   $119,001.27
2/1/2023          $11,781.73 $2,513.00 $49.93 $104,486.24 $281.53 $337.40 $241.07 $860.00   $116,267.97
3/1/2023          $9,318.67 $2,513.00 $39.50 $104,204.72 $282.44 $336.49 $241.07 $860.00   $113,523.38
4/1/2023          $6,845.16 $2,513.00 $29.01 $103,922.28 $283.35 $335.58 $241.07 $860.00   $110,767.44
5/1/2023          $4,361.17 $2,513.00 $18.48 $103,638.93 $284.26 $334.67 $241.07 $860.00   $108,000.10
6/1/2023          $1,866.66 $1,874.57 $7.91 $103,354.67 $923.61 $333.75 $241.07 $1,498.43   $105,221.33
7/1/2023          $(0.00)   $102,431.06 $2,801.17 $330.77 $241.06 $3,373.00   $102,431.06
8/1/2023             $99,629.89 $2,810.22 $321.72 $241.06 $3,373.00   $99,629.89
9/1/2023             $96,819.67 $2,819.29 $312.65 $241.06 $3,373.00   $96,819.67
(2024)             
(2025)             
4/1/2026             $5,053.18 $3,115.61 $16.32 $241.07 $3,373.00   $5,053.18
5/1/2026             $1,937.56 $1,937.56 $6.26 $241.07 $2,184.89   $1,937.56
6/1/2026             $(0.00)      $(0.00)
                    
   Auto 2    Auto 1    Pool    Solar    House    Total   Total
   Pmt Total Interest   Pmt Total Interest   Pmt Total Interest   Pmt Total Interest   Pmt Total Interest   Payments   Interest
   $6,610.61 $246.54   $10,999.29 $187.47   $40,733.96 $3,599.55   $30,864.61 $2,854.45   $112,401.82 $17,844.92   $201,610.29   $24,732.94

Taking the $70k Equity Loan at 4.25% to combine the Pool and Solar, and take out $4,500 for the shed, I add 1 month to the plan for 70 payments and save $1,445 in interest over the current plan.

New Payoff Plan
-- Month -- --- Auto 2 --- --- Pmt --- --- Int --- --- Auto 1 --- --- Pmt --- --- Int --- ----- EL ----- ---- Pmt ---- --- Int --- - House - - Principal - --- Int --- - Escrow - --- Pmt ---   - Total Debt -
9/1/2020 $6,364.07 $300.00 $21.16 $10,811.82 $500.00 $16.22 $70,000.00 $1,713.00 $247.92 $112,401.82 $284.20 $362.96 $252.84 $900.00   $199,577.71
10/1/2020 $6,085.23 $300.00 $20.23 $10,328.04 $500.00 $15.49 $68,534.92 $1,713.00 $242.73 $112,117.62 $285.11 $362.05 $252.84 $900.00   $197,065.81
11/1/2020 $5,805.47 $300.00 $19.30 $9,843.53 $500.00 $14.77 $67,064.64 $1,713.00 $237.52 $111,832.51 $286.03 $361.13 $252.84 $900.00   $194,546.15
12/1/2020 $5,524.77 $300.00 $18.37 $9,358.30 $500.00 $14.04 $65,589.17 $1,713.00 $232.29 $111,546.47 $286.96 $360.20 $252.84 $900.00   $192,018.70
1/1/2021 $5,243.14 $300.00 $17.43 $8,872.33 $500.00 $13.31 $64,108.46 $1,713.00 $227.05 $111,259.52 $287.88 $359.28 $252.84 $900.00   $189,483.45
2/1/2021 $4,960.57 $300.00 $16.49 $8,385.64 $500.00 $12.58 $62,622.51 $6,100.00 $221.79 $110,971.63 $260.06 $358.35 $256.58 $874.99   $186,940.36
3/1/2021 $4,677.07 $300.00 $15.55 $7,898.22 $500.00 $11.85 $56,744.30 $1,713.00 $200.97 $110,711.57 $260.90 $357.51 $256.58 $874.99   $180,031.15
4/1/2021 $4,392.62 $300.00 $14.61 $7,410.07 $500.00 $11.12 $55,232.27 $1,713.00 $195.61 $110,450.66 $261.75 $356.66 $256.58 $874.99   $177,485.62
5/1/2021 $4,107.23 $300.00 $13.66 $6,921.18 $500.00 $10.38 $53,714.88 $1,713.00 $190.24 $110,188.92 $262.59 $355.82 $256.58 $874.99   $174,932.21
6/1/2021 $3,820.88 $300.00 $12.70 $6,431.56 $500.00 $9.65 $52,192.12 $1,713.00 $184.85 $109,926.32 $263.44 $354.97 $256.58 $874.99   $172,370.89
7/1/2021 $3,533.59 $300.00 $11.75 $5,941.21 $500.00 $8.91 $50,663.97 $1,713.00 $179.43 $109,662.89 $264.29 $354.12 $256.58 $874.99   $169,801.65
8/1/2021 $3,245.34 $300.00 $10.79 $5,450.12 $500.00 $8.18 $49,130.40 $1,713.00 $174.00 $109,398.59 $265.14 $353.27 $256.59 $875.00   $167,224.46
9/1/2021 $2,956.13 $300.00 $9.83 $4,958.30 $500.00 $7.44 $47,591.41 $1,713.00 $168.55 $109,133.45 $266.00 $352.41 $256.59 $875.00   $164,639.28
10/1/2021 $2,665.96 $300.00 $8.86 $4,465.74 $500.00 $6.70 $46,046.96 $1,713.00 $163.08 $108,867.45 $266.86 $351.55 $256.59 $875.00   $162,046.10
11/1/2021 $2,374.82 $300.00 $7.90 $3,972.43 $500.00 $5.96 $44,497.04 $1,713.00 $157.59 $108,600.59 $267.72 $350.69 $256.59 $875.00   $159,444.89
12/1/2021 $2,082.72 $300.00 $6.93 $3,478.39 $500.00 $5.22 $42,941.64 $1,713.00 $152.08 $108,332.87 $268.59 $349.82 $256.59 $875.00   $156,835.62
1/1/2022 $1,789.64 $300.00 $5.95 $2,983.61 $500.00 $4.48 $41,380.72 $1,713.00 $146.56 $108,064.29 $269.51 $348.96 $256.59 $875.06   $154,218.26
2/1/2022 $1,495.59 $300.00 $4.97 $2,488.09 $500.00 $3.73 $39,814.28 $1,713.00 $141.01 $107,794.77 $270.84 $348.09 $241.07 $860.00   $151,592.73
3/1/2022 $1,200.56 $300.00 $3.99 $1,991.82 $500.00 $2.99 $38,242.29 $1,713.00 $135.44 $107,523.93 $271.72 $347.21 $241.07 $860.00   $148,958.60
4/1/2022 $904.56 $300.00 $3.01 $1,494.81 $500.00 $2.24 $36,664.73 $1,713.00 $129.85 $107,252.21 $272.59 $346.34 $241.07 $860.00   $146,316.31
5/1/2022 $607.56 $300.00 $2.02 $997.05 $500.00 $1.50 $35,081.58 $1,713.00 $124.25 $106,979.62 $273.47 $345.46 $241.07 $860.00   $143,665.82
6/1/2022 $309.58 $310.61 $1.03 $498.54 $499.29 $0.75 $33,492.83 $2,513.00 $118.62 $106,706.14 $274.36 $344.57 $241.07 $860.00   $141,007.10
7/1/2022 $0.00    $0.00    $31,098.45 $2,513.00 $110.14 $106,431.79 $275.25 $343.69 $241.06 $860.00   $137,530.24
8/1/2022       $28,695.59 $2,513.00 $101.63 $106,156.53 $276.14 $342.80 $241.06 $860.00   $134,852.12
9/1/2022       $26,284.22 $2,513.00 $93.09 $105,880.39 $277.03 $341.91 $241.06 $860.00   $132,164.61
10/1/2022       $23,864.31 $2,513.00 $84.52 $105,603.36 $277.93 $341.01 $241.06 $860.00   $129,467.67
11/1/2022       $21,435.83 $2,513.00 $75.92 $105,325.43 $278.83 $340.11 $241.06 $860.00   $126,761.26
12/1/2022       $18,998.75 $2,513.00 $67.29 $105,046.60 $279.73 $339.21 $241.06 $860.00   $124,045.35
1/1/2023       $16,553.04 $2,513.00 $58.63 $104,766.87 $280.63 $338.31 $241.06 $860.00   $121,319.91
2/1/2023       $14,098.66 $2,513.00 $49.93 $104,486.24 $281.54 $337.40 $241.07 $860.01   $118,584.90
3/1/2023       $11,635.60 $2,513.00 $41.21 $104,204.71 $282.45 $336.49 $241.07 $860.01   $115,840.30
4/1/2023       $9,163.81 $2,513.00 $32.46 $103,922.26 $283.36 $335.58 $241.07 $860.01   $113,086.06
5/1/2023       $6,683.26 $2,513.00 $23.67 $103,638.90 $284.27 $334.67 $241.07 $860.01   $110,322.16
6/1/2023       $4,193.93 $2,513.00 $14.85 $103,354.63 $285.19 $333.75 $241.07 $860.01   $107,548.56
7/1/2023       $1,695.78 $1,701.79 $6.01 $103,069.44 $1,101.11 $332.83 $241.06 $1,675.00   $104,765.22
8/1/2023       $(0.00)   $101,968.33 $2,802.67 $329.27 $241.06 $3,373.00   $101,968.33
9/1/2023          $99,165.66 $2,811.72 $320.22 $241.06 $3,373.00   $99,165.66
(2024)          
(2025)          
4/1/2026          $7,645.75 $3,107.24 $24.69 $241.07 $3,373.00   $7,645.75
5/1/2026          $4,538.51 $3,117.27 $14.66 $241.07 $3,373.00   $4,538.51
6/1/2026          $1,421.23 $1,425.82 $4.59 $241.07 $1,671.48   $1,421.23
7/1/2026          $0.00       $0.00
                 
   Auto 2    Auto 1    Home Equity    House    Total   Total
   Pmt Total Interest   Pmt Total Interest   Pmt Total Interest   Pmt Total Interest   Payments   Interest
   $6,610.61 $246.54   $10,999.29 $187.47   $74,730.79 $4,730.79   $112,406.40 $18,122.48   $204,747.09   $23,287.28

Hopefully this helps you with how I'm viewing this. It would be nice to find an Equity loan even 1/2 point lower at 3.75% which would drop the interest by another $600, 3.25% would save $1180.

BTW - Where can I get the 15-year cash-out refi @ 3.25% at no cost? I could try for $182 to include the house, pool, solar, and storage shed which is 74% ltv, and make payments of $2,600/month + another $800 when the 2 cars are paid off. This would be 68 payments and interest of only $18,584 ($6,148 interest savings over my current plan).
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08-25-2020 at 11:50 PM.
08-25-2020 at 11:50 PM.
Kinda rushed into locking rates with a lender last week because i was afraid the rates will go up, but now with FHFA delaying the adverse market fee, I'm hoping the rates at least stay the same if not back lower.
All this to as, if I asked the lender to lock (no fee lock) and signed the intend to proceed (ITP) but there weren't any non-refundables in the disclosures - what could I be asked to pay for if i choose to back out? I'm assuming just the credit report charge (Attached the LE for reference). Thanks in advance.
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