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Details on how to understand the Mortgage basics and information that I understand for your learning can be accessed on this post (Click this hyperlink to go to the post); If you are new to this process and have questions this is a Must Read before asking question on the forum!


Reviving my over a decade old thread from SD and FW as the rates have gotten competitive. This thread is a SD community thread to compare and post best rates received along with their lender experience for a quick compare and estimation from a starting point.


Please note that rates will vary on quite a few factors and just because one person has a rate will not guarantee you will receive the same rate but simply use this as a guide and negotiation tactic.

All below rates are based on assumptions of certain LTV, DTI, & Excellent Credit Scores:

30 Year Fixed best rates (Assuming Good Credit & 20% down, low LTV, low DTI, etc etc):
All listed lenders are here because I shopped them and have encountered competitive pricing and not because I get any sort of a kickback....use this as a gauge for the latest but note that things can change week to week, day to day and even hour to hour:

07/14/2021 2.875% Better.com- Will consider Lender Match to beat Competitors and combine with Amex cashback (Click here for additional Forum thread details). Amex's "Digital Assist" Team @ 800-297-7500

07/14/2021 2.875% LoanDepot.com - Is competitive but works better if you have another offer for them. My LO Luke Dean
[email protected] 949-652-4521

07/14/2021 BSMFunding (David Pressel) - Call to get the latest rates (no published online). Very competitive rates; get everything in writing via email!
https://bsmfunding.mymortgage-onl...essel.html
David Pressel (NMLS: 562175)- Branch Manager - Phone: 908-208-2036
[email protected]
07/14/2021 2.5% LoanCabin [loancabin.com] - Most Competitive but refinance times have grow to almost 6 months for many people so proceed with caution as recent reviews indicate normal 1 month closing. Generally do not charge for big Lender Fees (A+B on LE) as they are under $100 in most cases; esp if appraisal is waived for your scenario.

07/14/2021 3% LenderFi - Competitive but might be slow and not work on beating other lender rates.
30 Year Fixed Jumbo Best Rates (Assuming Good Credit & 20% down):
TBD
15 year Fixed:
07/14/2021 2.0 % Better.com; matches Bankrate rates for themselves.
07/04/2020 2.5% NIH Credit Union with Lender Credit
Title Company Comparisions:
RadianTitleDirect.com - OP has used them for almost a decade with getting best rates (closed after Covid, Lender must submit order as consumer side is closed).
ALTTitle.com
https://www.valerotitle.com/ - Texas only.
Alphabetical list of other lenders (some could be non-proven without direct member experiences posted here):
  1. AimLoan - Will provide LE without hard pull if credit is frozen https://www.aimloan.com/
  2. Amerisave - will give you scores from all 3 bureaus with just a soft pull https://www.amerisave.com/
  3. Better.com https://better.com/
  4. BoxHomeLoans https://www.boxhomeloans.com/
  5. Close Your Own Loan https://www.closeyourownloan.com/...sults.aspx
  6. Colonial Mort http://www.colonialmort.com/
  7. HighTechLending http://www.hightechlending.co/Default.aspx
  8. Interactive Mortgage https://interactivemortgage.com/ Eric from IM is super rude so good luck dealing with this guy!
  9. LenderFi https://www.lenderfi.com [lenderfi.com]if the link wont work try this backend link: https://app.lenderfi.com/app/sign...r/lenderfi
  10. Loan Cabin https://www.loancabin.com/
  11. Loan Depot https://www.loandepot.com/
  12. LoanLock https://www.loanlock.com/
  13. NavyFederal CU https://www.navyfederal.org/
  14. NIH credit union (Delware, District of Columbia, Maryland, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Virginia, West Virginia) https://www.nihfcu.org/
  15. Northpointe Bank https://www.northpointe.com/
  16. Owning.com (Operates only in CA) https://owning.com/
  17. Pentagon Federal CU https://www.penfed.org/
  18. Provident Funding - will give LE without locking rate https://www.provident.com/
  19. RatePlus (California) https://www.rateplus.com/
  20. Travis Credit Union (12 North Cal Counties only) https://www.traviscu.org/ Eligibility traviscu.org
  21. United wholesale mortgages https://www.uwm.com/
  22. Watermark Home Loans https://www.watermarkhomeloans.com/
  23. West Coast Mortgage Associates (The loan broker is in So.Cal. Debbie Morgan) https://wcmtg.com/


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Old Thread - https://slickdeals.net/e/1223863-03-06-2009-best-mortgage-rates-from-big-reputable-lenders-30year-5-15year-5-arm-s-etc

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Quote from MeAPhool :
I think a lot of people get confused with regards to "no closing cost". Specifically I think that is with regards to A+B+C (as referenced in this post by volcomssj48 - https://slickdeals.net/forums/showpost.php?p=138543920&postcount=138)

As per volcomssj48, this is a good place to go for a basic understanding of the LE (Loan Estimate) that should be provided to you by each lender once you give all of your information: https://www.consumerfinance.gov/o...-estimate/

I'm in NJ so I can't really shop Title Insurance much as it's the cost is regulated by the state, however in other states, you can really cut down some of the costs in section "C".
Good site for daily mortgage news. Subscribe to their daily mortgage rate news to learn about their predictions. Also take a look at the rest of their site.
http://www.mortgagenewsdaily.com/...age_rates/



Potential Lenders - Mentioned in Thread
*Please add to this list and add locality if applicable*

  1. Loan Cabin https://www.loancabin.com/
  2. Better.com https://better.com/
  3. Interactive Mortgage https://interactivemortgage.com/
  4. LenderFi https://www.lenderfi.com/
  5. owning.com (Operates only in CA) https://owning.com/
  6. NIH credit union (Delware, District of Columbia, Maryland, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Virginia, West Virginia) https://www.nihfcu.org/
  7. Loan Depot https://www.loandepot.com/
  8. Travis Credit Union (12 North Cal Counties only) https://www.traviscu.org/ Eligibility [traviscu.org]
  9. Pentagon Federal CU https://www.penfed.org/
  10. Interactive Mortgage https://interactivemortgage.com/
  11. NavyFederal CU https://www.navyfederal.org/
  12. United wholesale mortgages https://www.uwm.com/
  13. BoxHomeLoans https://www.boxhomeloans.com/
  14. LoanLock https://www.loanlock.com/
  15. West Coast Mortgage Associates (The loan broker is in So.Cal. Debbie Morgan) https://wcmtg.com/
  16. RatePlus (California) https://www.rateplus.com/
  17. Northpointe Bank https://www.northpointe.com/
  18. HighTechLending https://hightechlending.mortgagewebcenter.com/
  19. Close Your Own Loan https://www.closeyourownloan.com/...sults.aspx
  20. AimLoan - will give LE without hard pull if credit is frozen https://www.aimloan.com/
  21. Amerisave - will give you scores from all 3 bureaus with just a soft pull
    https://www.amerisave.com/
  22. Provident - will give LE without locking rate https://www.provident.com/ Best Credit Back with 60% LTV or better.
  23. Watermark Home Loans https://www.watermarkhomeloans.com/ Skip these guys. They are being rude to Slickdealers. In one occasion they have explicitly said they don't want to do business with people from Slickdeals. They also have an approach where they give you the best rate initially and just raise it more each time you ask.
  24. Colonial Mort http://www.colonialmort.com/
  25. Annie Mac https://www.annie-mac.com/ Licensed in these states https://www.annie-mac.com/page/licensed-states/
  26. Rate Rabbit https://www.raterabbit.com/ Licensed in MA and others [raterabbit.com]

Discount lenders who DO NOT accept fully documented in tax returns self-employment income:
Owning.com
BoxHomeLoans
Lower.com

Discount Lenders that DO accept fully documented in tax returns self-employment income:
Sebonic
Caliber
Sage

Title Company Shopping
AltTitle.com
mytitlegenius.com (formerly entitle direct)
TO AVOID - Settlement LTD (local Pittsburgh run away from them - high cost, very bad service, lot of delays)


Feel Free to Add Sections for Each Lender - MeAPhool

Loan Cabin - DetailsWARNING. DO NOT GO WITH LOAN CABIN. TRUST ME.
I would have lost the home if i was trying to buy a house.
I just had a normal refi and it took then 127 days to close. out of the 27 emails i sent, they responded to 3. I even had to call (complain) their main office 2 times to get a response to any emails. they screwed the closing paperwork as well.


Loan Cabin does not charge lender fees. Actually all of this is in their FAQ but of course nobody reads anything and wants everything spoon fed.

This means A+B (reference the link above in the wiki regarding Loan Estimate) in the Loan Estimate should be 0 (as long as your appraisal is waived).

You will be responsible for Title Cost (of course you can shop that to your heart's delight)
You will be responsible for Recording Fee in your county
You will be responsible for Escrows (if you so choose OR if you are close to Homeowner's OR Property Tax payment - though you can negotiate and show evidence to get it waived. Most lender's will waive it if you are choosing not to escrow and you can show proof that you paid the upcoming Property Tax or Homeowner's Insurance)

You will be responsible for Prepaid Interest (this isn't a cost. If you didn't refinance, you'd be paying the interest at your current mortgage rate which I assume would be higher).

Lender Credit - If this covers A+B+C+E then you have a no-cost refinance. If you have a surplus aside from A+B+C+E, then technically you made money on your refinance.


If you apply and do no hear back for 3 days, then on the 3rd business day, reach out to [email protected]. They will usually help get a response on your application within a day.



If the information in this WIKI does not cover your questions, then please ask. We will answer and update WIKI accordingly.

Thanks - MeAPhool

Quote from arouncoumar :
For those needing clarity on LC closing costs, I was on the same boat. See what they charge here https://www.dropbox.com/s/r30ecea...t.png?dl=0
Quote from PeterLegend :
Here is a photo of my loan estimate from Loan Cabin, my lender credits should be closer to 3K based on my initial conversations with Bob so i'm following up with him on that.

I do see title insurance in my estimate. I reached out to Owning but I didn't quality for the no cost refinance option since my LTV was 73%, it has to be 50% or lower when I spoke to them.

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09-30-2020 at 12:10 PM.
Quote from Joanneitaly1958 :
They have the best interest rates and do not charge any lender fees. I had an appraisal waiver as well. I used Radian title for my title services so good deal.

Wait, how's that possible? I got a Firm no about using LC by Radian. How and what worked for you here?


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Quote from soobaerodude :
They'll send you the locked LE along with the form requesting CC number for appraisal. Just don't fill out the CC form
Thanks for that info. Should work out then. But I will wait next day or two to lock. Does not look like the market is any good today.
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Quote from rebates :
Thanks for that info. Should work out then. But I will wait next day or two to lock. Does not look like the market is any good today.

Just to give you an anecdotal point that with Better you can Lock and then have them match LEs all the way up to the final closing and they will match you both on Rate and Net Credits (unless they dont or deny the match).


Locking with them (only them) is more of a formality.


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09-30-2020 at 12:57 PM.
Thanks to all those who contribute here and especially to Shahhere for starting this thread and seeding it with the low priced lenders.

My loan funded with High Tech Lending and here is my timeline

8/3/20 - Applied
8/7/20 - Locked 15 year at 2.25% with 0.5% Lender Credit (About $600 in net closing costs after credits minus HTL orig. fee)
8/12/20 - Docs requested & uploaded
9/7/20 - Loan went to UW
9/23/20 - Loan approved by UW
9/25/20 - Signing at local title company (old republic)
9/29/20 - Loan funded
9/30/20 - Pay off sent to previous mortgage

Overall it was a pretty smooth process and appraisal was waived because of 45% LTV.
The LO was very responsive and their portal was pretty good for uploading docs.

The Lender credit was a bit lower than others but my only choices were HTL, LD & WM.
WM was unresponsive for a while and LD was not competitive.

P.S - HTL sold my loan to Planet Home Lending which seems to have pretty bad reviews.
Any one else got them ? Any experiences to share ?
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Quote from shahhere :
Wait, how's that possible? I got a Firm no about using LC by Radian. How and what worked for you here?


Shahhere
Same here, Radian told me that they don't have an account with LC.
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09-30-2020 at 01:59 PM.
Quote from eversavage :
Just got my LC quote today.. its 2.25% no points fees but about $700 in closing cost...

Going to stick with my current lender...
2.25% locked 15 yrs no cost refi..
Which lender you're going with?

In my experience, LC wasn't the most competitive and not as willing to match.
Better.com on the other had has continued to match Ally, Loan Depot.
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Which lender you're going with?

In my experience, LC wasn't the most competitive and not as willing to match.
Better.com on the other had has continued to match Ally, Loan Depot.
Seems like each Better LO has their own rules . Mine said they will not match Ally, becos Better do processing for Ally too and he could see the other application in his system.
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Quote from rebates :
Seems like each Better LO has their own rules . Mine said they will not match Ally, becos Better do processing for Ally too and he could see the other application in his system.

And that's scary too

I spoke to Ally and they read off some emails I sent to Better in the bidding process
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09-30-2020 at 03:33 PM.
Quote from tedzo :
Hello.
How does 2.5%, 30 yr with 700 net credit, after all costs (A+B+C+E) sound?

Thanks.

Thats a great deal. Who's the lender
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Quote from Joanneitaly1958 :
They have the best interest rates and do not charge any lender fees. I had an appraisal waiver as well. I used Radian title for my title services so good deal.
Congrats on closing!!

Also, Radian title works for Loan Cabin? I thought they didn't. Can you PM me the contact and I will get a quote since my Loan is still in underwriting.

Thanks!

Editted --

Ahh I see everyone responded before me (I just quoted and replied w/o reading the thread). I wonder if this is a "state by state" issue with Loan Cabin and Radian.
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Quote from MeAPhool :
Congrats on closing!!

Also, Radian title works for Loan Cabin? I thought they didn't. Can you PM me the contact and I will get a quote since my Loan is still in underwriting.

Thanks!

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Ahh I see everyone responded before me (I just quoted and replied w/o reading the thread). I wonder if this is a "state by state" issue with Loan Cabin and Radian.

I have a VP contact at Radian and she is very helpful and they have assigned Title and Closing contacts directly to me and this came from them that Radian doesn't have LC in their system lol. If this was a one off or if they mis-spoke i want I'll have to check me contacts!


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Quote from shahhere :
I have a VP contact at Radian and she is very helpful and they have assigned Title and Closing contacts directly to me and this came from them that Radian doesn't have LC in their system lol. If this was a one off or if they mis-spoke i want I'll have to check me contacts!


Shahhere

Can you pm... your vp contact at radian.. I wonder if its better than what I initially got quoted
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Quote from thedesi :
Which lender you're going with?

In my experience, LC wasn't the most competitive and not as willing to match.
Better.com on the other had has continued to match Ally, Loan Depot.

I currently trying to close with this lender but having issues with the underwriter..... seems like I don't make enough due to covid affecting my hrs...

So 2.25% no cost would be a pipe dream.. for now...
maybe next time when I'm able to work more 😪


Data points:
My pal is going with Owning.... 2.5%, 30 years with a cost of $300..


My co worker going with LD with
2.5% 20 yrs, and earning $100
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How much 20 years for? What's the lowest..
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Quote from 7Guru7 :
Just received this email from Better. If you are closing with Better, PM me and I will refer you for an additional $500 off your closing costs.

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Hi xyz,

We're reaching out to a handful of past and present clients to help us spread the word about Better — and help others in the process.

If you know a few folks who may be considering a mortgage, send them our way. If they fund with us, we'll take an additional $500 off their closing costs.

Just tell us which friends you'd like to refer and we'll do the rest.
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Anyone that 7Guru7 referred got a referral email from Better.com yet? I know 7Guru7 referred me but I am yet to get the email. I would like to get a screenshot of the actual email if anyone has got it as I am closing soon and I am thinking just a screenshot would be sufficient to request the credit even if it I do not actually get the email directly from Better before I close.
Thanks in advance.
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