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Details on how to understand the Mortgage basics and information that I understand for your learning can be accessed on this post (Click this hyperlink to go to the post); If you are new to this process and have questions this is a Must Read before asking question on the forum!


Reviving my over a decade old thread from SD and FW as the rates have gotten competitive. This thread is a SD community thread to compare and post best rates received along with their lender experience for a quick compare and estimation from a starting point.


Please note that rates will vary on quite a few factors and just because one person has a rate will not guarantee you will receive the same rate but simply use this as a guide and negotiation tactic.

All below rates are based on assumptions of certain LTV, DTI, & Excellent Credit Scores:

30 Year Fixed best rates (Assuming Good Credit & 20% down, low LTV, low DTI, etc etc):
All listed lenders are here because I shopped them and have encountered competitive pricing and not because I get any sort of a kickback....use this as a gauge for the latest but note that things can change week to week, day to day and even hour to hour:

07/14/2021 2.875% Better.com- Will consider Lender Match to beat Competitors and combine with Amex cashback (Click here for additional Forum thread details). Amex's "Digital Assist" Team @ 800-297-7500

07/14/2021 2.875% LoanDepot.com - Is competitive but works better if you have another offer for them. My LO Luke Dean
[email protected] 949-652-4521

07/14/2021 BSMFunding (David Pressel) - Call to get the latest rates (no published online). Very competitive rates; get everything in writing via email!
https://bsmfunding.mymortgage-onl...essel.html
David Pressel (NMLS: 562175)- Branch Manager - Phone: 908-208-2036
[email protected]
07/14/2021 2.5% LoanCabin [loancabin.com] - Most Competitive but refinance times have grow to almost 6 months for many people so proceed with caution as recent reviews indicate normal 1 month closing. Generally do not charge for big Lender Fees (A+B on LE) as they are under $100 in most cases; esp if appraisal is waived for your scenario.

07/14/2021 3% LenderFi - Competitive but might be slow and not work on beating other lender rates.
30 Year Fixed Jumbo Best Rates (Assuming Good Credit & 20% down):
TBD
15 year Fixed:
07/14/2021 2.0 % Better.com; matches Bankrate rates for themselves.
07/04/2020 2.5% NIH Credit Union with Lender Credit
Title Company Comparisions:
RadianTitleDirect.com - OP has used them for almost a decade with getting best rates (closed after Covid, Lender must submit order as consumer side is closed).
ALTTitle.com
https://www.valerotitle.com/ - Texas only.
Alphabetical list of other lenders (some could be non-proven without direct member experiences posted here):
  1. AimLoan - Will provide LE without hard pull if credit is frozen https://www.aimloan.com/
  2. Amerisave - will give you scores from all 3 bureaus with just a soft pull https://www.amerisave.com/
  3. Better.com https://better.com/
  4. BoxHomeLoans https://www.boxhomeloans.com/
  5. Close Your Own Loan https://www.closeyourownloan.com/...sults.aspx
  6. Colonial Mort http://www.colonialmort.com/
  7. HighTechLending http://www.hightechlending.co/Default.aspx
  8. Interactive Mortgage https://interactivemortgage.com/ Eric from IM is super rude so good luck dealing with this guy!
  9. LenderFi https://www.lenderfi.com [lenderfi.com]if the link wont work try this backend link: https://app.lenderfi.com/app/sign...r/lenderfi
  10. Loan Cabin https://www.loancabin.com/
  11. Loan Depot https://www.loandepot.com/
  12. LoanLock https://www.loanlock.com/
  13. NavyFederal CU https://www.navyfederal.org/
  14. NIH credit union (Delware, District of Columbia, Maryland, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Virginia, West Virginia) https://www.nihfcu.org/
  15. Northpointe Bank https://www.northpointe.com/
  16. Owning.com (Operates only in CA) https://owning.com/
  17. Pentagon Federal CU https://www.penfed.org/
  18. Provident Funding - will give LE without locking rate https://www.provident.com/
  19. RatePlus (California) https://www.rateplus.com/
  20. Travis Credit Union (12 North Cal Counties only) https://www.traviscu.org/ Eligibility traviscu.org
  21. United wholesale mortgages https://www.uwm.com/
  22. Watermark Home Loans https://www.watermarkhomeloans.com/
  23. West Coast Mortgage Associates (The loan broker is in So.Cal. Debbie Morgan) https://wcmtg.com/


Shahhere

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Quote from MeAPhool :
I think a lot of people get confused with regards to "no closing cost". Specifically I think that is with regards to A+B+C (as referenced in this post by volcomssj48 - https://slickdeals.net/forums/showpost.php?p=138543920&postcount=138)

As per volcomssj48, this is a good place to go for a basic understanding of the LE (Loan Estimate) that should be provided to you by each lender once you give all of your information: https://www.consumerfinance.gov/o...-estimate/

I'm in NJ so I can't really shop Title Insurance much as it's the cost is regulated by the state, however in other states, you can really cut down some of the costs in section "C".
Good site for daily mortgage news. Subscribe to their daily mortgage rate news to learn about their predictions. Also take a look at the rest of their site.
http://www.mortgagenewsdaily.com/...age_rates/



Potential Lenders - Mentioned in Thread
*Please add to this list and add locality if applicable*

  1. Loan Cabin https://www.loancabin.com/
  2. Better.com https://better.com/
  3. Interactive Mortgage https://interactivemortgage.com/
  4. LenderFi https://www.lenderfi.com/
  5. owning.com (Operates only in CA) https://owning.com/
  6. NIH credit union (Delware, District of Columbia, Maryland, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Virginia, West Virginia) https://www.nihfcu.org/
  7. Loan Depot https://www.loandepot.com/
  8. Travis Credit Union (12 North Cal Counties only) https://www.traviscu.org/ Eligibility [traviscu.org]
  9. Pentagon Federal CU https://www.penfed.org/
  10. Interactive Mortgage https://interactivemortgage.com/
  11. NavyFederal CU https://www.navyfederal.org/
  12. United wholesale mortgages https://www.uwm.com/
  13. BoxHomeLoans https://www.boxhomeloans.com/
  14. LoanLock https://www.loanlock.com/
  15. West Coast Mortgage Associates (The loan broker is in So.Cal. Debbie Morgan) https://wcmtg.com/
  16. RatePlus (California) https://www.rateplus.com/
  17. Northpointe Bank https://www.northpointe.com/
  18. HighTechLending https://hightechlending.mortgagewebcenter.com/
  19. Close Your Own Loan https://www.closeyourownloan.com/...sults.aspx
  20. AimLoan - will give LE without hard pull if credit is frozen https://www.aimloan.com/
  21. Amerisave - will give you scores from all 3 bureaus with just a soft pull
    https://www.amerisave.com/
  22. Provident - will give LE without locking rate https://www.provident.com/ Best Credit Back with 60% LTV or better.
  23. Watermark Home Loans https://www.watermarkhomeloans.com/ Skip these guys. They are being rude to Slickdealers. In one occasion they have explicitly said they don't want to do business with people from Slickdeals. They also have an approach where they give you the best rate initially and just raise it more each time you ask.
  24. Colonial Mort http://www.colonialmort.com/
  25. Annie Mac https://www.annie-mac.com/ Licensed in these states https://www.annie-mac.com/page/licensed-states/
  26. Rate Rabbit https://www.raterabbit.com/ Licensed in MA and others [raterabbit.com]

Discount lenders who DO NOT accept fully documented in tax returns self-employment income:
Owning.com
BoxHomeLoans
Lower.com

Discount Lenders that DO accept fully documented in tax returns self-employment income:
Sebonic
Caliber
Sage

Title Company Shopping
AltTitle.com
mytitlegenius.com (formerly entitle direct)
TO AVOID - Settlement LTD (local Pittsburgh run away from them - high cost, very bad service, lot of delays)


Feel Free to Add Sections for Each Lender - MeAPhool

Loan Cabin - DetailsWARNING. DO NOT GO WITH LOAN CABIN. TRUST ME.
I would have lost the home if i was trying to buy a house.
I just had a normal refi and it took then 127 days to close. out of the 27 emails i sent, they responded to 3. I even had to call (complain) their main office 2 times to get a response to any emails. they screwed the closing paperwork as well.


Loan Cabin does not charge lender fees. Actually all of this is in their FAQ but of course nobody reads anything and wants everything spoon fed.

This means A+B (reference the link above in the wiki regarding Loan Estimate) in the Loan Estimate should be 0 (as long as your appraisal is waived).

You will be responsible for Title Cost (of course you can shop that to your heart's delight)
You will be responsible for Recording Fee in your county
You will be responsible for Escrows (if you so choose OR if you are close to Homeowner's OR Property Tax payment - though you can negotiate and show evidence to get it waived. Most lender's will waive it if you are choosing not to escrow and you can show proof that you paid the upcoming Property Tax or Homeowner's Insurance)

You will be responsible for Prepaid Interest (this isn't a cost. If you didn't refinance, you'd be paying the interest at your current mortgage rate which I assume would be higher).

Lender Credit - If this covers A+B+C+E then you have a no-cost refinance. If you have a surplus aside from A+B+C+E, then technically you made money on your refinance.


If you apply and do no hear back for 3 days, then on the 3rd business day, reach out to [email protected]. They will usually help get a response on your application within a day.



If the information in this WIKI does not cover your questions, then please ask. We will answer and update WIKI accordingly.

Thanks - MeAPhool

Quote from arouncoumar :
For those needing clarity on LC closing costs, I was on the same boat. See what they charge here https://www.dropbox.com/s/r30ecea...t.png?dl=0
Quote from PeterLegend :
Here is a photo of my loan estimate from Loan Cabin, my lender credits should be closer to 3K based on my initial conversations with Bob so i'm following up with him on that.

I do see title insurance in my estimate. I reached out to Owning but I didn't quality for the no cost refinance option since my LTV was 73%, it has to be 50% or lower when I spoke to them.

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08-29-2020 at 05:26 PM.
08-29-2020 at 05:26 PM.
Quote from blueskysafari :
I just got the process started at LC. No closing cost except title insurance. Got 15 years fixed for 1.99 with 860 credit.
I was told that they work with Fidelity title which will be approx 1800 but I can shop elsewhere.
So what are the best options for title insurance other than Fidelity ? Location is CA.
Can't answer your question but that's an awesome rate.
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08-29-2020 at 05:58 PM.
Quote from yapagaldil :
Question: The underwriter is asking to pay for master policy document for a townhome? Is this a valid request? I didn't do this for my earlier refinance so I wanted to clarify it.

Thank you in advance.
Underwriting is a black box that is usually not in anyone's control. They do ask "abnormal" questions and that that is part of their job. And no two underwriting questions are going to be the same even on the same property. If one could predict what the underwriter is going to ask, then it will not be underwriting and only loan processing. While vast majority of people "escape" the scrutiny of the underwriter without needing to answer tough questions, I have even been asked very specific and complex questions about my tax return which I had no idea about and had to put them in touch with my CPA. So yes, if you have access to the document send it in or make arrangements to get it from your HOA if required.
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08-29-2020 at 05:59 PM.
08-29-2020 at 05:59 PM.
Quote from blueskysafari :
I just got the process started at LC. No closing cost except title insurance. Got 15 years fixed for 1.99 with 860 credit.
I was told that they work with Fidelity title which will be approx 1800 but I can shop elsewhere.
So what are the best options for title insurance other than Fidelity ? Location is CA.
Please post loan amount or the lender credit as a % of the loan amount as that will be very helpful to the community in general. While LC had advertised 1.99 on and off from about a month back, this is the first time someone here has actually got that rate with a lender credit. So great rate, at least as of today.
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08-29-2020 at 06:02 PM.
08-29-2020 at 06:02 PM.
Quote from LongN5823 :
Anyone closed with Watermark and have these issues:

I just got my CD. The payoff amount they have is $2700 more than what my balance. Even using last month balance + interest, it still off by a lot.
I'm also not doing escrow, but they want 3 months of home insurance when I paid it till next July already. 6 months of taxes were due last months, which was paid. Next 6 months isn't due till December. Are they suppose to be requesting that when it's still like 4 months out and no escrow?
Were you able to fix these issues?

How long did it take you to go from conditional approval to closing?

Did you close yet?

How was your experience with Watermark/ WM? Thanks!​
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08-29-2020 at 06:03 PM.
08-29-2020 at 06:03 PM.
Quote from Wackowacko2020 :
Anyone closing with watermark yet? If so, how long does it take? I locked mine 2 weeks already and haven't get any info on closing date yet. Thanks
Any updates re this?

Did you close with WM? How long did it take?

If you recall, how long were you in conditional approval?

Thanks!​
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Quote from jimmyrules712 :
FYI when most people say "no closing costs" they include title insurance as being one of the things they aren't paying out of pocket for. If your lender credit isn't covering most or all of the title insurance cost then your loan is not a "no closing cost" loan by the standard definition. The only costs that are normally ignored are prepaid interest and escrow.

That doesn't mean you got a bad deal, 1.99 is a great rate. It just means you could have gone with a slightly higher rate with a bigger lender credit that could have made your loan a true no closing cost loan.
Quote from HarryS4062 :
Please post loan amount or the lender credit as a % of the loan amount as that will be very helpful to the community in general. While LC had advertised 1.99 on and off from about a month back, this is the first time someone here has actually got that rate with a lender credit. So great rate, at least as of today.
I see LC showing 1.99% APY/APR,,,why does it not include all the closing cost (excl prepaids)?
Is it not like Owning then?
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08-29-2020 at 06:41 PM.
Quote from quizzer :
When did you apply and when did LC respond with LE? Also let me know if you fin any cheaper title insurance for CA.
I apply 2 weeks back and got the response now.
From presto987 reply , seems radian may not work with LC. I have to check Amrock though.
Wondering if there some more option.
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Quote from jimmyrules712 :
FYI when most people say "no closing costs" they include title insurance as being one of the things they aren't paying out of pocket for. If your lender credit isn't covering most or all of the title insurance cost then your loan is not a "no closing cost" loan by the standard definition. The only costs that are normally ignored are prepaid interest and escrow.

That doesn't mean you got a bad deal, 1.99 is a great rate. It just means you could have gone with a slightly higher rate with a bigger lender credit that could have made your loan a true no closing cost loan.
I agree . It's just that , that's how LC is marketing their LEs.
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Quote from HarryS4062 :
Please post loan amount or the lender credit as a % of the loan amount as that will be very helpful to the community in general. While LC had advertised 1.99 on and off from about a month back, this is the first time someone here has actually got that rate with a lender credit. So great rate, at least as of today.
Loan amount is 500k
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08-29-2020 at 06:53 PM.
Quote from blueskysafari :
I apply 2 weeks back and got the response now.
From presto987 reply , seems radian may not work with LC. I have to check Amrock though.
Wondering if there some more option.
I know Radian only works with certain lenders, but I haven't verified that LC is not on their list. But I believe I read that in this thread.

First American and Title 365 are other title companies that serve CA. I don't think First American is cheap though. Title 365 I'm not sure about.
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08-29-2020 at 07:02 PM.
08-29-2020 at 07:02 PM.
Quote from quizzer :
I see LC showing 1.99% APY/APR,,,why does it not include all the closing cost (excl prepaids)?
Is it not like Owning then?
Quote from blueskysafari :
I agree . It's just that , that's how LC is marketing their LEs.
Yeah, LC's only includes points/lender credits in their APR calculation which is is not right and contradicts their own fine print which states "Loan Cabin does not charge an origination fee. The one-time costs shown include points/credits and third-party fees. An escrow deposit, pre-paid interest, and other charges may be required depending on your situation.
". No its not like Owning which promises to cover ALL closing costs.
But loan cabin are still the lowest in most states they serve despite that small bait and switch..

Quote from blueskysafari :
Loan amount is 500k
Thanks. So lender credit stands at 0.17% of loan amount for 15 fixed 1.99 rate
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Quote from sacko999 :
Thanks. Going through Watermark now. Best rate I found and great service.
Did you end up closing with Watermark? How long did it take? Do you remember how long you were in conditional approval?
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Quote from blueskysafari :
I apply 2 weeks back and got the response now.
From presto987 reply , seems radian may not work with LC. I have to check Amrock though.
Wondering if there some more option.
Quote from presto987 :
I know Radian only works with certain lenders, but I haven't verified that LC is not on their list. But I believe I read that in this thread.

First American and Title 365 are other title companies that serve CA. I don't think First American is cheap though. Title 365 I'm not sure about.
Amrock has worst reviews. Title 365 seems better.
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Quote from Doatslo :
WWYD?

recently closed on a re-fi with WM.
2.625 apr 30 yr
essentially no fee other than pre funding escrow
about 300K loan. 70%ish LTV

should i start looking at another re-fi? my goal would most likely be at least 2.375% w no fee. what would you guys be doing right now? just relax right now since rates are slightly above my goal? the 0.5% fannie charge seems to not be changing the market much as was expected.

TIA
What was your timeline with WM? Thanks!
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If my rate lock expired with loan cabin can I get updated rates? Refi'd with LC LE with better. Now want to do a refi with LC. (Had to lock with LC to get the LE July 5).
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